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Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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Post by chrismcb »

elorant wrote: post #162
huntie wrote: post #39

I'm really glad that people at Mozilla use ridiculous numbers of tabs too. Lazy-loading of tabs is the reason I switched to firefox. I'm not sure if it's still this way, but Chrome used to load every tab on startup. So even if you only had 100 tabs, you were looking at 5+ minute startup time. God-forbid that any of them were Youtube, or you'd have to go through and pause them all. I've just updated to Firefox 55 to t…

So even if you only had 100 tabs This is fucking surreal. Why on Earth would anyone want 100 open tabs, besides testing? What's the real life scenario we're looking at here?

I'm not sure if I have 100 tabs, but I have a lot. I find it easier than using bookmarks. I have several chromes open, each one with a bunch of tabs. My queen one has but list, API list, work wiki, several tabs for different logs. A couple of forums for third party products we use, bit bucket, maybe a coyote of tabs for third party documentation... For personal products I might have the skin tab open plus a couple of non admin tabs. I do this for several different sites. And so on... On my Google drive I have easily a dozen open for various documents... It adds up quickly.

Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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Post by jwilk »

frik wrote: post #372
Koshkin wrote: post #74

Can anyone offer an explanation of why should not tabs be managed by the window manager? (My understanding is that this question is independent from how the particular application would choose to control the contents of a tab - whether directly, or through a separate thread, or by spawning a child process.)

We had that already. Opera was the first browser with tabs, it had MDI support and tabs. MDI stands for Multiple Document Interface, and was common with Win 3x and Win9x (WinAPI) applications: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_document_interface . Macromedia Dreamweaver had tabs even before Opera browser, as well as Frontpage. Word, Excel and PowerPoint used to be MDI applications up to Office 2010 (up to 2003…

Non-mobile link:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_document_interface

Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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Post by JoshTriplett »

noselasd wrote: post #539
bigbugbag wrote: post #445

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Sorry but you got the wrong setting here. To disable autoplay it's media.autoplay.enabled

media.autoplay.enabled toggles whether videos in the current (foreground) tab starts auto playing or not The question was about videos in a background tab, which is controlled by the media.block-autoplay-until-in-foreground setting.

Unfortunately, neither of those settings does quite what I'd like. Once a tab has been in the foreground, I'd like it to continue being able to play things in the background, including new things. (For instance, some sites play a chime for notifications.) I just don't want anything played from a tab that has never been in the foreground.

Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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Post by Antrikshy »

JulienSchmidt wrote: post #431
lobster_johnson wrote: post #60

I've been considering switching to Firefox due to these performance improvements, but the one feature that's always missing is for the location bar to autocomplete terms from other sources such as Wikipedia. Is there some add-on I can install that can fix this? Safari is brilliant here. If you enter something in Safari's location bar, it will suggest Wikipedia and other search suggestions right away [1]. I use this f…

Go to Preferences > Search and set keywords for each search engine. E.g. I use "g" for Google and "w" for Wikipedia. "g hacker news" in the AwesomeBar would then search for "hacker news" on Google and "w hacker news" likewise on Wikipedia.

That requires typing the full name of the thing.

Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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Post by jplayer01 »

elorant wrote: post #162
huntie wrote: post #39

I'm really glad that people at Mozilla use ridiculous numbers of tabs too. Lazy-loading of tabs is the reason I switched to firefox. I'm not sure if it's still this way, but Chrome used to load every tab on startup. So even if you only had 100 tabs, you were looking at 5+ minute startup time. God-forbid that any of them were Youtube, or you'd have to go through and pause them all. I've just updated to Firefox 55 to t…

So even if you only had 100 tabs This is fucking surreal. Why on Earth would anyone want 100 open tabs, besides testing? What's the real life scenario we're looking at here?

Until somebody comes up with a better way to keep interesting and relevant tabs an immediate click away, I'm going to regularly habe 100-200 tabs open at any time. Bookmarks are too unwieldy and require too much of a context switch.

Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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Post by jplayer01 »

ge96 wrote: post #506
artificial wrote: post #369

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Greetings fellow hoarder. Should you be using Chrome I highly recommend the great suspender. It will unload tabs from memory if they're not used after a set time. That way one can open and return at your leisure without as much of an impact.

That sounds interesting. What happened when you return to a suspended tab?

It's immediately reloaded. As far as I can remember you can set it to reload from cache or it will download it again.

Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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Post by jplayer01 »

mrweasel wrote: post #360
sicariusnoctis wrote: post #324

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I don't understand why some people think it's weird. Folks with tabs in the 100s just have a different workflow from you. If I google something, I like having a few different sources or points of view, so I open a bunch of tabs to look through. Sometimes, I want to switch to a different task, so I collapse that tab tree for looking at later. Sometimes, inside that tree, there's another topic of interest I want to kno…

You absolutely right that it's just different workflows, for different people. The weirdness comes up when someone like me meet someone with 20+ tabs, because I wouldn't now how to work like that. If I end up with 10 or 15 tabs during a session where I'm researching something, I'll often pause to close down all the those tabs, because they're a mental burden. So some of us think 100s of tabs are weird, because there'…

For us, the tabs that aren't relevant to our current task just disappear. It's not in our sphere of perception for as long as we don't need it. Furthermore, we think it's a huge waste of time to go back to a previous task if we've closed the tabs. That means we need to waste a ton of energy and cognitive effort recreating state.

Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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Post by rachkovsky »

atombender wrote: post #233
elorant wrote: post #162

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So even if you only had 100 tabs This is fucking surreal. Why on Earth would anyone want 100 open tabs, besides testing? What's the real life scenario we're looking at here?

I wish tabs/windows worked more like persistent "workspaces". For example, say I'm booking a trip. I always open a bunch of sites (Kayak, Booking.com, lots of hotels, Google Maps, places to visit, etc.) in a single window. In pre-computer times it would be like covering a desk with a ton of papers, books and notes. Gradually I will figure out stuff, book the trip, etc. but the tabs can stay for quite a while. I feel…

I'm using zeerka.com for exactly that: research projects that are saved as groups of links. And it's browser agnostic.

Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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Post by michaelmior »

emiliobumachar wrote: post #462
michaelmior wrote: post #439

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How would this help with the scenario described by the OP? Are you suggesting starting a new virtual machine instead of a new browser window?

Yes, that's exactly what I'm suggesting. VMs can be named, saved and loaded straightforwardly.

That's massive overhead for managing a set of tabs which is exactly what Firefox is trying to avoid.

Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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Post by loco5niner »

ge96 wrote: post #506
artificial wrote: post #369

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Greetings fellow hoarder. Should you be using Chrome I highly recommend the great suspender. It will unload tabs from memory if they're not used after a set time. That way one can open and return at your leisure without as much of an impact.

That sounds interesting. What happened when you return to a suspended tab?

In my experience (unlike my sibling comment), it displays a mostly blank page with a "click to reload" link.
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