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Sugar-sweetened drinks with protein rich meal affect metabolism

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Re: Sugar-sweetened drinks with protein rich meal affect metabolism

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> The next time you tuck into a protein rich dinner, it may be a good idea to hold off on the sugary drinks. For 300,000 of human existence except the past few decades, humans drank no sugar-sweetened drinks. It is always a good idea to hold off on sugary drinks.

For those who follow the targeted ketogenic diet it can be beneficial to ingest some sugar prior to a high intensity workout.

Re: Sugar-sweetened drinks with protein rich meal affect metabolism

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40 eggs/week seems excessive, regardless of the cholesterol or lack of. Is the rest of your diet still balanced and diverse?

Not sure where that number came from. I eat about 25/week. And of course it has other things. Veggies, meat, ...

Ah it's from the other poster. Yeah 25/week isn't as worrisome.

Re: Sugar-sweetened drinks with protein rich meal affect metabolism

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Your liver removes toxins as one of its normal functions. There is no evidence that any sort of 'detox' diet is able to assist with this any more than a normal diet (with sufficient vitamins etc.).

Yeah, because liver has unlimited resources and efficiency just if u give it anything, such as dirt, and you can overload it with any type of toxin without a problem and it will do just fine. I am sure that is what is going on.

If your liver is overloaded (e.g. tylenol overdose) you would already be dead, you wouldn't just be mystically unhealthy somehow.

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Yeah, because liver has unlimited resources and efficiency just if u give it anything, such as dirt, and you can overload it with any type of toxin without a problem and it will do just fine. I am sure that is what is going on.

If your liver is overloaded (e.g. tylenol overdose) you would already be dead, you wouldn't just be mystically unhealthy somehow.

That's not how it works by any means...use alcohol as a single example, a normal, healthy liver processes alcohol at a given rate (approximately 1oz of alcohol/hour), your liver is "overwhelmed" when you consume more alcohol than it can keep pace with, that leads to alcohol in the blood and intoxication...that is a far cry from a liver being overwhelmed to the extent their is a lethal amount of alcohol in the blood and death.

Where do you think the disease fatty liver comes from? You do understand a fatty liver isn't going to be functioning normally and more easily overwhelmed by toxins in the future right?

Why do you think children for the first time in history have non-alcoholic fatty liver disease? Their livers are being overworked, not to the extent death by toxicity occurred, but to the extent they develop chronic conditions in childhood that it used to take a lifetime to acquire.

No one is talking about mystical healing, rational people are discussing eating foods that promote healthy liver/kidney function, in turn promote overall cellular health, and to the extent possible avoiding unnecessary toxins like smoking or excessive drinking.

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Please stop posting on the internet.

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Re: Sugar-sweetened drinks with protein rich meal affect metabolism

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"better than steroids" by Dr Warren Wiley. Although it might be more focused for athletes than what you are after. And yes, the title is sensationalized, in the first few pages the author admits it.

I am an "athlete". Not a competitive one, but I do lift pretty heavy. Thanks for the recommendation.

its actually aimed at lifting. athlete was probably the wrong word. What i meant was, its for people who need to lose weight and build muscle to meet weight classes / physique competitions etc. Its not for people who need a diet but don't want to exercise. Lifting is perfect.

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Does someone know of any serious "weight loss" books that are _rigorously evidence based_, without layman explanations, bad/outdated research, and bovine manure like confusing correlation with causation or relying on small, unrandomized population studies to confirm the author's preconceived notions for how things should be? I mean real, hard ass summary of today's best, most rigorous studies + some recommendations.

Not sure but these might fit your requirements:

https://www.csiro.au/en/Research/Health/CSIRO-diets/CSIRO-To...

The CSIRO is an Australian government funded research organisation that has a very good reputation.

The initial book has been followed up by a number of others that expand on the recipes and complementary exercises.

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> One downside: I noticed my bi-weekly shopping bills to have definitely gone up. Mine has gone down after switching to eggs as default go-to food.

Low carb or not, I can't believe eating 40+ eggs a week is healthy. Balance it out, yo! Plus, while I like eggs (a lot), they do get boring after a while. There are only so many different ways to prepare them.

Beyond boredom, many people will develop bad body odor from the choline in eggs:

https://nutritionfacts.org/2014/08/19/how-eggs-can-impact-bo...

My partner eats boiled eggs daily for breakfast and at one point I tried to switch to having 2 eggs for breakfast every couple of days. I rapidly developed an unpleasant body odor that went away when I stopped having eggs so frequently. So daily eggs is not be a viable solution for everyone.

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Trains do about 30 times better on a tablespoon of diesel, and that's only including the weight of the freight and not the train itself.

i feel like a train isn't going to get anywhere on a tablespoon. That's enough for a few engine strokes perhaps, but that's hardly 30 times better than a mile by a human, no?

Based it on the weight-miles per gallon (assuming something like a 200lb human).

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Low carb or not, I can't believe eating 40+ eggs a week is healthy. Balance it out, yo! Plus, while I like eggs (a lot), they do get boring after a while. There are only so many different ways to prepare them.

Beyond boredom, many people will develop bad body odor from the choline in eggs: https://nutritionfacts.org/2014/08/19/how-eggs-can-impact-bo... My partner eats boiled eggs daily for breakfast and at one point I tried to switch to having 2 eggs for breakfast every couple of days. I rapidly developed an unpleasant body odor that went away when I stopped having eggs so frequently. So daily eggs is not be a viable solut…

Thanks for that link. There's not enough literature showing the adverse effects of eggs and meat that are not linked to fat and cholesterol.
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