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This is Hungary we're talking about, more likely it was 24k or less.
The article says >BKK pays T-Systems 80kEUR/month to operate this system. If you were offered that, would you turn it down because you can't actually deliver a secure system in time?
18yo arrested for reporting a bug in the new Budapest e-Ticket system
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#144I remember coming across a serious bug in a site that belonged to a top multi-billion company. My brother also found what essentially an unrestricted privacy leak (and possibly editing access) in a top university (leaked data is sensitive personal information, not academic). Neither of us reported (or exploited) what we found. Protection from this kind of blame-shifting and misdirected retaliation should be guarantee…
I'm having trouble understanding what exactly an org's thought process is when they elect to prosecute someone for reporting a security issue. Would they also prosecute a person who told them one of their doors was left unlocked after-hours? A normal person's reaction upon being told "You left your keys in the lock" is usually gratitude, not calling the cops. EDIT: Is it suspicion? "Hmm...this person found an unlocke…
Perhaps not, but they probably would be tempted to prosecute someone who opened the door with a toothbrush and told them about it...
The temptation is to squash anything that comes along and potentially makes you look like you weren't doing your job properly (installing a better lock in the first place) rather than thank the person and then install a better lock, or fix the design of the lock.
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#145In my country, the laws are draconian and totally against this kind of responsible disclosure. But being a good guy, whenever I find something I write a strongly worded email explaining why the company's IT department messed up, how to test said mess-up, and how they can hire my company to ensure these kinds of stupid things don't happen again. I've reported several of these issues, sometimes all I get is single repl…
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They took him as a criminal, got his fingerprints, took a photo of him. I do not think they proceeded this in the right way. They should have fixed the bugs, protect our personal data and say sorry for this.
No, they brought him in as a person of interest following Hungarian law. If you do not like the law please vote the next election a party that changes that or move to a country that does not require police to follow the law. Determining if he is going to be charged with a crime is at later stage in the investigation anyways. There is no such a thing as "They took him as a criminal". Moreover, it is not only Hungarian…
> In Hungary, according to the law, this was pretty much illegal.
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#148That's how the DMCA works. Remember the guy who gave a talk about Adobe's PDF creator which purported to produce "secure" documents (required a password) but the feature was easily bypassed. Adobe had him arrested the day after he gave his talk. Link to a Wired article here: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wired.com/2001/07/russian-a... EDIT: I have a terrible memory-- thanks to the folks who replied to my comment w…
This story takes place in Hungary.
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Yep, a few people were frowning, especially since the democracy is in pretty bad shape in Hungary right know. However, in this case it works: it will be seen and remembered longer this way. Also, there were quite heated discussions on facebook, the case received a lot of attention even from non-tech people, the guy will be represented by the lawyers of a human rights association, etc. And actually there will be a pro…
"democracy is in pretty bad shape in Hungary right know" I thought that Hungary has a democratically elected government. Did I miss something?
Much of it focuses on the treatment of refugees, but you'll also find information about the suppression of free speech and the like. A "democratically elected government" in a country where the opposition is suppressed is not that democratically elected after all.
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#150The price of a ticket was client-side authenticated!? I can't fathom the level of incompetence required to do something like this...
"Budapest's new e-ticketing system uses state-of-the-art JavaScript to deliver a smooth user experience, combining a great React front-end with a micro-services node.js backend!" - marketing blurb I just made up, needs more buzzwords though.