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Sugar-sweetened drinks with protein rich meal affect metabolism

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Trains do about 30 times better on a tablespoon of diesel, and that's only including the weight of the freight and not the train itself.

i feel like a train isn't going to get anywhere on a tablespoon. That's enough for a few engine strokes perhaps, but that's hardly 30 times better than a mile by a human, no?

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This whole toxins thing is a load of crap. https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2014/dec/05/detox-m... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detoxification_(alternative_me...

Yeah, because toxins do not exist, right ? And you can't ingest them or be exposed to them chronically. It only makes sense that we all live in perfectly clean environment and eat perfectly nutritious food 24x7 ...

Your liver removes toxins as one of its normal functions. There is no evidence that any sort of 'detox' diet is able to assist with this any more than a normal diet (with sufficient vitamins etc.).

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> The next time you tuck into a protein rich dinner, it may be a good idea to hold off on the sugary drinks. For 300,000 of human existence except the past few decades, humans drank no sugar-sweetened drinks. It is always a good idea to hold off on sugary drinks.

For 300,000 of human existence except the past couple of centuries, humans did not use vaccines.

It is always a good idea to hold off on vaccines.

Not saying drinking sugary drinks is good, but your justification is bad

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Note that (at least the summary indicates) this experiment refutes "calories in calories out" theory - food composition affects thermogenesis. (I am not talking about the tautological and useless thermodynamic sense in which it definitely is true; I am talking about the "measure your intake and exercise" crowd)

Exercise is a bad way to increase calories out, because it's just too efficient. The conversion is something like 1 mile run = 1 tbsp peanut butter.

You're right, but it depends. This is certainly true for aerobic exercise but things like weightlifting for mass will long term increase your BMR.

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> The next time you tuck into a protein rich dinner, it may be a good idea to hold off on the sugary drinks. For 300,000 of human existence except the past few decades, humans drank no sugar-sweetened drinks. It is always a good idea to hold off on sugary drinks.

Fruit juice? Does fructose vs sucrose make a difference?

> Fruit juice

Coke is better. It has similar sugar levels but has caffeine which seems to be good for you.

Fruit juice with fibre is better, but like most loopholes really you are just fooling yourself. So at least with coke people seem to know it's bad so I'd stick with that.

Then there's coke zero that's better for you than water. (But not for your teeth)

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I'm a distance runner and personally find I enjoy a high fat diet for balancing weight, performance (how I feel more than time), and physique (entirely ego driven, but can't over look the real effect of thoughts/beliefs on health). That said I have personally run on high fat (even in ketosis, and seperately eating animal products and vegan); high protein/more fairly a body builder bulking macro(including dairy protei…

This whole toxins thing is a load of crap. https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2014/dec/05/detox-m... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detoxification_(alternative_me...

The liver is an organ that functions to detoxify the body, read into my comment how you would like but at minimum it's not very controversial that you can abstain from the introduction of certain toxins to the body and you can consume foods that at minimum promote the healthy function of the liver so the liver is properly processing toxins into less harmful substances for removal from the body.

Even if you don't believe the science showing that certain food can bind with toxins allowing them to be brought to the liver, kidneys or excreted, It's not controverisial to belihumans can avoid adding unncecessary toxins to their body thru diet if not avoiding smoking. But honestly toxins in the body and the function of the liver are not controverial and it's not controversial that diet can either promote liver health and function or Overwhelm the liver leading to short term issues like alcohol posioning or long term issues including fatty liver disease.

It's much better people not have fatty liver, their livers otherwise process sugar/toxins properly, but to maximize cellular health mimizing the need for the liver spend energy detoxifying the body/processing sugar.

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Trains do about 30 times better on a tablespoon of diesel, and that's only including the weight of the freight and not the train itself.

i feel like a train isn't going to get anywhere on a tablespoon. That's enough for a few engine strokes perhaps, but that's hardly 30 times better than a mile by a human, no?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Trains do about 30 times better on a tablespoon of diesel, and that's only including the weight of the freight and not the train itself.

i feel like a train isn't going to get anywhere on a tablespoon. That's enough for a few engine strokes perhaps, but that's hardly 30 times better than a mile by a human, no?

I'm not sure on the numbers but I know a human couldn't get freight moving even with a whole jar of peanut butter.

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Fruit juice? Does fructose vs sucrose make a difference?

I predict in the coming years we'll start referring to fructose as "bad sugar" and glucose/dextrose as "good sugar". Sucrose, being a 50/50 compound of the two, thus inherits "bad sugar" from the fructose produced during digestion. HFCS actually ranges from 29-55% fructose vs. glucose/dextrose (the highest being available in CocaCola freestyle soda machines), and can be better or worse than sucrose, but is generally…

Glucose tastes awful so I wouldn't call it a good sugar.

Re: Sugar-sweetened drinks with protein rich meal affect metabolism

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Note that (at least the summary indicates) this experiment refutes "calories in calories out" theory - food composition affects thermogenesis. (I am not talking about the tautological and useless thermodynamic sense in which it definitely is true; I am talking about the "measure your intake and exercise" crowd)

The two are the exact same thing. Not sure how the article refutes.

It says that different composition of X calorie in induces different calorie out spent on metabolism. That means short of living in a sealed chamber that measures everything, "calorie out" precision is so low that makes it a much less useful measure if you are trying to gain or lose weight.
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