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Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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Tree Tab Style. Try it, then read the original post and the comments again. :) I think this is the missing piece on all this discussion.

I do know those extensions, but still prefer bookmarks. I just tag stuff unread and go on.

then link rot and unread stays unread forever.

Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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There's a good reason not to use edge: it's not available outside windows.

How is that relevant to a UI discussion?

It could be the best UI ever, if it is not available it is useless.

In this particular example microsoft uses edge to push people to use the latest version of their adware/spyware OS.

Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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I wish tabs/windows worked more like persistent "workspaces". For example, say I'm booking a trip. I always open a bunch of sites (Kayak, Booking.com, lots of hotels, Google Maps, places to visit, etc.) in a single window. In pre-computer times it would be like covering a desk with a ton of papers, books and notes. Gradually I will figure out stuff, book the trip, etc. but the tabs can stay for quite a while. I feel…

In Chrome you can "Bookmark all tabs" by pressing Ctrl+Shift+D or right clicking any tab and choosing that option. Then just close the window and when you want to bring them back later, in the bookmark tree you can right click a folder and say "open all tabs in a new window".

Not the same thing. The behaviour isn't "persistent": If you add or remove tabs to the window, the bookmark folder isn't automatically updated. Re-bookmarking every time you make a change isn't an option. You also lose state (history, forms, scroll position).

Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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I wish tabs/windows worked more like persistent "workspaces". For example, say I'm booking a trip. I always open a bunch of sites (Kayak, Booking.com, lots of hotels, Google Maps, places to visit, etc.) in a single window. In pre-computer times it would be like covering a desk with a ton of papers, books and notes. Gradually I will figure out stuff, book the trip, etc. but the tabs can stay for quite a while. I feel…

This functionality exists with bookmarks. FF allows you to bookmark all the tabs you have open into a bookmarks folder. It also provides a button at the bottom of the folder "open all in tabs" This works well enough for my taste, but I also use pinned tabs for stuff like fb messenger

Not the same thing. The behaviour isn't "persistent": If you add or remove tabs to the window, the bookmark folder isn't automatically updated. Re-bookmarking every time you make a change isn't an option. You also lose state (history, forms, scroll position).

Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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I've been considering switching to Firefox due to these performance improvements, but the one feature that's always missing is for the location bar to autocomplete terms from other sources such as Wikipedia. Is there some add-on I can install that can fix this? Safari is brilliant here. If you enter something in Safari's location bar, it will suggest Wikipedia and other search suggestions right away [1]. I use this f…

Like this? https://s13.postimg.org/l8vjukezr/Screen_Shot_2017-07-21_at_... It's just the search box next to the location/url bar. Now has search options to start out at wiki/amazon/twitter etc.

No, not at all like that. I want the top search suggestion to be Wikipedia (or whatever else which is appropriate). I don't want to then click on an Wikipedia icon or whatever to search.

Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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I've been considering switching to Firefox due to these performance improvements, but the one feature that's always missing is for the location bar to autocomplete terms from other sources such as Wikipedia. Is there some add-on I can install that can fix this? Safari is brilliant here. If you enter something in Safari's location bar, it will suggest Wikipedia and other search suggestions right away [1]. I use this f…

Go to Preferences > Search and set keywords for each search engine. E.g. I use "g" for Google and "w" for Wikipedia. "g hacker news" in the AwesomeBar would then search for "hacker news" on Google and "w hacker news" likewise on Wikipedia.

I do use keyword search. Not the same thing.

Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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So even if you only had 100 tabs This is fucking surreal. Why on Earth would anyone want 100 open tabs, besides testing? What's the real life scenario we're looking at here?

None of the browsers are really that good at letting you get back to things you recently looked at, or had loaded. Meanwhile there are great plugins for searching within all open tabs. When you have a wiki page that you need about ~1 time per week, and can't remember the URL for- just keep the tab open. You're augmenting your limited human memory with the computer.

> None of the mainstream browsers

Fixed it for you. Like another person wrote, old Opera did it just fine in a period where PCs were much slower.

Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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I am happy to hear this because I stopped using firefox and migrated to google chrome around firefox 51, and boy it was SLOW.

Now it might be worth it to give it another try.

In the meantime, I am seriously concerned about Thunderbird. Thunderbird is my MUA of choice and quite frankly, there are very few options to replace it, and none of them seems 100% okay (except, maybe, Evolution). Clawsmail is okay-ish, but so ugly to see and feature-poor.

Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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Firefox does this too. It's on by default for Firefox Nightly and an opt-in preference in the other update channels.

So what you say is that firefox does not do this. (unless you go deep in about:config which is highly discouraged by mozilla).

Firefox Nightly does, and it's not done by default in non-nightly (but you can enable it with "media.block-autoplay-until-in-foreground"). I imagine it will become the default eventually.

"Firefox doesn't do this" is not a valid one-sentence summary of what I just said.

Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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Can anyone offer an explanation of why should not tabs be managed by the window manager? (My understanding is that this question is independent from how the particular application would choose to control the contents of a tab - whether directly, or through a separate thread, or by spawning a child process.)

We had that already. Opera was the first browser with tabs, it had MDI support and tabs. MDI stands for Multiple Document Interface, and was common with Win 3x and Win9x (WinAPI) applications: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_document_interface . Macromedia Dreamweaver had tabs even before Opera browser, as well as Frontpage. Word, Excel and PowerPoint used to be MDI applications up to Office 2010 (up to 2003…

> So it would be great if Chrome and other browsers would support MDI with tabs

It's extremely unlikely that will ever happen (if they were to do it, they would've done it by now).

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