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Google to add 'news feed' to website and app

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Re: Google to add 'news feed' to website and app

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Post by NTripleOne »

Qub3d wrote: post #145
elihu wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Time for a new search engine maybe? Duckduckgo seems like the obvious alternative search engine these days, but how much of their own indexing do they do? It seems from some casual googling (no, the irony of that is not lost on me) that they mostly rely on Bing or Yahoo as the backend. Some thoughts: Search engines should be a lot easier to build in 2017 than they were two decades ago when Google started out. We don'…

I like DDG, I just hope they have some contingency in place when the Yahoo! engine they're relying on inevitably goes belly up.

Doesn't yahoo use bing anyway nowadays?

Re: Google to add 'news feed' to website and app

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Post by brightball »

to_bpr wrote: post #5

>The feed will include news stories from a variety of publishers, to avoid the so-called filter bubble effect, where people follow only content aligned with their pre-existing point of view. >"To provide information from diverse perspectives, news stories may have multiple viewpoints from a variety of sources... and, when available, you'll be able to fact check," the company said in a blog post. I'm growing increasin…

The biases tend to show up in the details that are left out rather than any details that are falsified. That's what tends to make it so hard for the general public, because if you don't know what's being left out before you read the story you only get the perspective being framed.

That's the trouble with fact check. It gives the illusion of that you're seeing the entire picture when you could just be looking through a keyhole and not know it.

Re: Google to add 'news feed' to website and app

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Post by crispytx »

What a horrible idea. Their original user interface consisting of a logo, a search bar, and two buttons is iconic and made up a great deal of what set google apart from its competitors. I know the first time I used Google in the late 90's, the thing I noticed was the user interface. I was a middle school kid then and knew nothing of PageRank. The reason I kept going back to google was their UI.

Re: Google to add 'news feed' to website and app

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Post by TeMPOraL »

hammock wrote: post #160
cyxxon wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, I actually hated when that went away. I had several RSS feeds on there, my inbox, my calendar... never found a good replacement. I used Netvives for a while, but it was somehow not the same (can't really put my finger on it, though).

Can be replaced by Google Now and/or your Android home screen (inbox widget, etc)

Except Google Now still completely sucks because you have close to zero direct control on what gets shown there.

Also: I like that they're experimenting, but come on. Replacing a settings menu with a list of very specific yes/no questions that are added to that list as you encounter them - that's just wrong. You don't even get a benefit of being able to scroll through a settings screen to discover what features are available...

Re: Google to add 'news feed' to website and app

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Post by crispytx »

Qub3d wrote: post #145
elihu wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Time for a new search engine maybe? Duckduckgo seems like the obvious alternative search engine these days, but how much of their own indexing do they do? It seems from some casual googling (no, the irony of that is not lost on me) that they mostly rely on Bing or Yahoo as the backend. Some thoughts: Search engines should be a lot easier to build in 2017 than they were two decades ago when Google started out. We don'…

I like DDG, I just hope they have some contingency in place when the Yahoo! engine they're relying on inevitably goes belly up.

Yeah I'm pretty sure that DuckDuckGo is powered by Yahoo/Bing which really just means, Microsoft is powering DuckDuckGo's search engine for the most part. I'm sure DDG puts their own spin on things as well, but Microsoft is doing all the heavy lifting.

Re: Google to add 'news feed' to website and app

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Post by crispytx »

beambot wrote: post #65

If only there was a system to create "feeds" of website entries (such as news sites), aggregate them, and then read them at our discretion. Then we could each create our own personal Google homepage. Google could brand such an offering as "Google reader" and "Google personalized homepage"... (For those who don't remember: these both used to be a thing!)

I think that's sort of what RSS was going for, but it doesn't seem to have really taken off. Maybe we need an RSS 2.0.

Re: Google to add 'news feed' to website and app

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Post by Jaruzel »

Terr_ wrote: post #61
Jaruzel wrote: post #35

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I can't find this on Google.com - is it just in the App ?

From the search-results page, there's a "Tools" button which exposes a bar containing "Any Time, All Results". Click "All Results" and it exposes "Verbatim" as another choice. There might be a more-permanent way to set it if you are logged-in, but I don't usually do that for Google for privacy reasons.

Aha. thank you. It would seem the magic is:

  &tbs=li:1
On the URL. As I use a custom search page as my home page, I shall alter it accordingly.

Re: Google to add 'news feed' to website and app

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Post by pjc50 »

hammock wrote: post #160
cyxxon wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, I actually hated when that went away. I had several RSS feeds on there, my inbox, my calendar... never found a good replacement. I used Netvives for a while, but it was somehow not the same (can't really put my finger on it, though).

Can be replaced by Google Now and/or your Android home screen (inbox widget, etc)

Not on a desktop PC!

Re: Google to add 'news feed' to website and app

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Post by mythrwy »

rockostrich wrote: post #159
mythrwy wrote: post #151

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Other front page stories from New York Times. -How Fear of Falling Explains the Love of Trump -Trump is his own worst enemy. -If Dr. Trump were your surgeon.

All of those are op-ed pieces. While still part of the organization, they shouldn't really be used in an argument about reputability of a news source.

Understood.

But "Biased garbage" I think was part of the original statement.

If this doesn't speak to bias of a publication I'm not sure what will. Besides I'm not sure all of the general public understands the difference.

Re: Google to add 'news feed' to website and app

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Post by euyyn »

crowbahr wrote: post #71
beambot wrote: post #65

If only there was a system to create "feeds" of website entries (such as news sites), aggregate them, and then read them at our discretion. Then we could each create our own personal Google homepage. Google could brand such an offering as "Google reader" and "Google personalized homepage"... (For those who don't remember: these both used to be a thing!)

See but that gives you, the consumer, toouch control over what you see. They don't want it to be your choice.

Google Reader was made open source, to be fair, and has plenty of replacements too.
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