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Google to add 'news feed' to website and app

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Re: Google to add 'news feed' to website and app

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Post by mythrwy »

matt4077 wrote: post #101
BigJono wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> 10 years ago there was a such thing as standards in journalism Was there? Because last I checked all that these so called 'reputable' sources of news seem to put out is biased garbage full of misleading data and often blatant lies. I've seen better journalism from bloody buzzfeed than I have from some of the "proper" news networks in Australia...

These are the current headlines of http://wsj.com and the New York Times ( https://www.nytimes.com ). Please point out which stories, specifically, are "blatant lies", or "biased garbage". WSJ: - Investors Brace for Clues on ECB’s Tapering Plans - Fed Faces Inflation Riddle - Top Court Revises Trump Travel Ban Scope - Bank Earnings Highlight Diverging Paths Since Crisis - How a Saudi Prince Unseated Heir Apparent - T…

Other front page stories from New York Times.

-How Fear of Falling Explains the Love of Trump

-Trump is his own worst enemy.

-If Dr. Trump were your surgeon.

Re: Google to add 'news feed' to website and app

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Post by BorisMelnik »

I've been using Google Home / Android version of this for a year or so now, and I have to say I really enjoy it. NOt sure if I will also enjoy the desktop version, but the app is truly intuitive. It shows me not just "news" but stuff like

-amazon price udpates on products I like -random forum comments -HN threads trending -and of course, news type news

either way I don't ;like a cluttered feed but I do have my eye on this

Re: Google to add 'news feed' to website and app

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Post by balladeer »

aphextron wrote: post #11

The "newsfeed" pattern is one of the worst ideas humanity has ever had. Never has it been so easy to manipulate public opinion at will. 10 years ago there was a such thing as standards in journalism. Now anypoliticalblog.com's headline has been promoted to the equal status of an actual news organisation by means of the implicit legitimacy of appearing in a news feed. This insanity has reached a crescendo with the off…

Is there an app/portal that, at least, just tries to provide unbiased and unadultrated news (just aggregation; if not the source of the article/post) for events from

(a.) particular country (b.) around the world (c.) and maybe few topics of interest (or not)

with a clean and simple interface w/o those fancy "social features" and not based on "trending" and "highly voted" features and charges a fee?

Re: Google to add 'news feed' to website and app

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Post by FussyZeus »

pjc50 wrote: post #68
thomyorkie wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The difference is personalization. I never would visit a portal site like yahoo, but every morning I look through my Google Now feed. Relevance matters.

Does anyone else remember the personalisable "iGoogle"?

After it went away I spent a lot of personal time building something similar on a unix box running at home. Still miss some of the features I could never replicate though.

Re: Google to add 'news feed' to website and app

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Post by falcolas »

Qub3d wrote: post #146
rawfan wrote: post #96

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I repeatedly tried "living in another search-engine" for a month at a time. I tried Bing, DDG and Yahoo. If I didn't search for something easy (like "population new york") the results were useless and superficial. Searching for something like "programatically create credit memo magento" yielded the user documentation on how to create a credit memo while Googles first result was the relevant API page with the second b…

I use DDG, but honestly still go to google a lot. The secret is DDG allows "bangs" -- !g in front of a query is a google search. It turns the Chrome omnibox into an even more powerful tool.

Or behind, nice when you ddg search wasn't useful, just append a !g and hit return.

DDG is my default, and I'm quite happy with it.

Re: Google to add 'news feed' to website and app

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Post by BorisMelnik »

intoverflow2 wrote: post #120
shadowmint wrote: post #14

It's hard to believe this is going to happen to google.com Google is, if nothing else, obsessed with metrics; unless they'd A/B/... tested this to death , there is zero chance they'll roll it out to their homepage. I can't believe it, and it's not mentioned anywhere on their blog post. To be fair, most people probably search from the chrome toolbar now, but even so, I imagine at most, we'll see a staged roll out to a…

Being obsessed with metrics is the exact reason something like this would go through. All companies that design to metrics instead of vision always ship the worst UI/UX crimes. This is the ideology we have to thank for things like the lightbox sign up forms that block or lock out content if you try to browse without an account on FB/Pintrest etc. You're assuming the metric Google is designing for is still how fast a…

on that note...how on earth is it possibly that the "im feeling lucky" button is still doing something for them?

Re: Google to add 'news feed' to website and app

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Post by mvdwoord »

dyukqu wrote: post #75
usaphp wrote: post #42

Who visits google.com anyway? I am pretty sure majority of those users who aren't interested in seeing these news are already using google search via browser address bar. Only those who go to google.com will see these news , and they seem to be an exact type of people who would enjoy such content and spend hours browsing it generating more revenue to google

Majority of regular users (who do not care or even know about any kind of online privacy, open web, net neutrality etc.) I interact with go to google.com, write down e.g. "facebook" and then log in! They don't even know they can use url bar for searching (let alone typing xyz.com directly). It makes my blood boil every time I see that. I try to explain, they usually just don't care to listen/understand. Coming from o…

Paraphrasing something else... this is probably what actual hell is like. Having to watch people browse the web in this way. Indefinitely.

Re: Google to add 'news feed' to website and app

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Post by prawn »

breatheoften wrote: post #144
BigJono wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> 10 years ago there was a such thing as standards in journalism Was there? Because last I checked all that these so called 'reputable' sources of news seem to put out is biased garbage full of misleading data and often blatant lies. I've seen better journalism from bloody buzzfeed than I have from some of the "proper" news networks in Australia...

Like most things in Australia I was impressed by Australian mainstream news outlets (coming from the US). I have a memory of reading the comments after an article on a real estate related story published by one of the bigger newspapers and being genuinely impressed by the quality of the reader discussion. That kind of feedback and engagement is the only thing that can keep journalism standards high I think.

Can you remember which newspaper? There are second/third-tier news sources in Australia that might have quality discussion, but generally it's pretty appalling.

I haven't seen any of them make a solid play at community-oriented commentary - things like persistent identities, karma systems, etc. Baffles me when sites like HN and Reddit are visited as much for their comments as the source articles. So many of the comments on mainstream news sites are drive-by insults instead.

Re: Google to add 'news feed' to website and app

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Post by rockostrich »

mythrwy wrote: post #151
matt4077 wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These are the current headlines of http://wsj.com and the New York Times ( https://www.nytimes.com ). Please point out which stories, specifically, are "blatant lies", or "biased garbage". WSJ: - Investors Brace for Clues on ECB’s Tapering Plans - Fed Faces Inflation Riddle - Top Court Revises Trump Travel Ban Scope - Bank Earnings Highlight Diverging Paths Since Crisis - How a Saudi Prince Unseated Heir Apparent - T…

Other front page stories from New York Times. -How Fear of Falling Explains the Love of Trump -Trump is his own worst enemy. -If Dr. Trump were your surgeon.

All of those are op-ed pieces. While still part of the organization, they shouldn't really be used in an argument about reputability of a news source.

Re: Google to add 'news feed' to website and app

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Post by hammock »

cyxxon wrote: post #86
pjc50 wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does anyone else remember the personalisable "iGoogle"?

Yeah, I actually hated when that went away. I had several RSS feeds on there, my inbox, my calendar... never found a good replacement. I used Netvives for a while, but it was somehow not the same (can't really put my finger on it, though).

Can be replaced by Google Now and/or your Android home screen (inbox widget, etc)
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