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On Being a Science Writer and Managing a Mental Illness

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Re: On Being a Science Writer and Managing a Mental Illness

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Here's another story of someone suffering from mental illness who should seek God as many are now doing and being healed. I speak as a converted atheist, hedge fund employee, and contract software developer. Visit a baptist church. "Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest."

What, specifically, does baptist christianity offer over any other religion? Or counseling given by an accredited therapist? Or, well, any other life experience? I think the church can offer a sense of community that many people are seeking or lack, but this is just an outrageous claim. If "god" was the answer to mental illness, and this fact was definitive, there would be no mental illness left.

There's nothing unique to Christianity here. It's just very easy for someone who's found what he needed to imagine that that's what everyone else needs, too. It's also a lot easier, I think especially for Christians but by no means only for us, to go that way, than to realize - and live up to - the fact that what we're truly called to do is not merely to speak easy words, but to take difficult actions; not to profess an answer to someone's problems, but as best we can to be that answer, even if only for a minute.

Our faith, in short, requires that we live for others. That's hard to do, and most of us are not good at it. My brother errs. I'm sorry for that.

Re: On Being a Science Writer and Managing a Mental Illness

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> therapy is more useful than drugs, even if drugs are needed eventually. Is it your opinion based on... ?

says the whole world. almost every european country requires you to do minimum hours of therapy before and to keep with therapy during the drug usage. to begin with, I could refer you to the study the article is about. it correlates a social setting with high occurrence of depression. then it proceeds to promote the solution with medication. when the obvious solution is changing the social setting! that is the defini…

1. In the United States most insurance will pay for a handful of Therapy sessions.

2. I had a breakdown years ago. Looking back it was just a massive Panic Attack. What really surprised me is I woke up the next morning feeling o.k., then out of the blue--life crushing anxiety. Anxiety so bad I just physically shook, and was always in tears. This went on for years.

3. After a week into the anxiety, I saw a Ph.D in psychology. I spent all my savings on these sessions. The result--not a bit of help. Now, they will claim that twice a week for 9 months is "not giving it enough time", but at a $100 a session it was just a waste of money.

4. I was finally referred to a Psychiatrist. He put me on all the antidepressants. None worked. He put me on a long half life benzodiazepine, and with a bottle of wine I was kinda functional.

5. My point is try Psychology/Psychiatry. Remember it's more of an art, than a science. I didn't realize this when I was in my twenties. Over the years, I have seem the spark dwindle from my Psychiatrist's eyes. I think if he had a do over, he would have picked a different speciality.

6. If I had a do over, I would have skipped it all. I did eventually stop drinking, but for years it was the only drug that worked, besides having to beg for low doses of benzodiazepines. I'm now trying to get off benzos, but figure why, at this point in my life. It's still a bitch getting any controlled drug from most doctors.

7. I can say this. So many of you will just get better with Time, but it might take awhile. (The "Professionals" conviently leave this out. There are some studies praising time verse therapy/drugs, but they are buried, and were small studies. I my case, it felt like I wounded my brain that night of the huge anxiety attack, and it would take years to heal. The experts told me most people do get better in a few weeks. I didn't. The depression arose because my life went from great to just lucky to get to sleep. Exercise did help eventually. At first, it didn't at all. I needed alcohol. I didn't want to blow out my liver in my twenties, so I only drank when I absolutely needed it. Don't overload that liver.

8. I once had a talk to a resident Psychiatrist. At first, he was a a cheerleader for his decision to specialize in psychiatry. After some debate, and honest reflection, he admitted to me all the modalities/drugs work a tiny bit in some patients, and the profession has a way to go.

9. I do know this, patients whom have been on a drug for a period of a few years shouldn't have to go into those prearranged sessions, just to refill a script. If the drug does not require blood monitoring, the patient should get refills. I know so many people who self medicated with alcohol, because our American system of treating mental illness sucks.

10. Time. I know, who has time. I need to function tomorrow. You have my heart.

Re: On Being a Science Writer and Managing a Mental Illness

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> For one thing, choosing writing as a way of making a living can nurture insecurity and doubt—especially for those, like myself, who are early in their careers. For me, at least, publishing a story is like handing in an exam essay, an invitation for strict judgment by both the intended audience and my peers. I think people in tech tend to underappreciate the benefits of being able to just do the job and enjoy a (com…

You can be creative for your own self, and not for others. You don't always need to show your creations. That removes the success anxiety. You should not try to be liked by others, it's very unproductive. Or at least it should not be your primary concern.

Even if people say they don't like your creation, it doesn't matter as long as you like it. Nobody cares about your sleeping position, and if somebody criticizes it (unless it's a doctor), you already know their opinion doesn't matter because 1) evolution works by listening to our feelings 2) you can't know the absolute truth about anything 3) there are many diverse opinions out there. It applies to creativity as well.

Only time and long term execution will tell if what you do matters (and to be honest, it does not matter anyway). But ultimately your cannot apprehend your work and the expectations of people. People are not able to tell you what they want, so it's not worth it to listen to them. I like to think creativity works in the realm of evolution and natural selection. It's impossible to predict what will work or not.

Re: On Being a Science Writer and Managing a Mental Illness

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> therapy is more useful than drugs, even if drugs are needed eventually. Is it your opinion based on... ?

says the whole world. almost every european country requires you to do minimum hours of therapy before and to keep with therapy during the drug usage. to begin with, I could refer you to the study the article is about. it correlates a social setting with high occurrence of depression. then it proceeds to promote the solution with medication. when the obvious solution is changing the social setting! that is the defini…

But you can have the best social setting, and mental illness will still happen and still affect you dealing with things. Depression makes it just as hard to get out of bed on nice days as foul ones.

Re: On Being a Science Writer and Managing a Mental Illness

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says the whole world. almost every european country requires you to do minimum hours of therapy before and to keep with therapy during the drug usage. to begin with, I could refer you to the study the article is about. it correlates a social setting with high occurrence of depression. then it proceeds to promote the solution with medication. when the obvious solution is changing the social setting! that is the defini…

Or, in other words, (at least some part of) the medical industry is driven by the neoliberal ideal that it's never anything else that's the problem, only yourself, and you're meant to deal with it with minimal impact on anyone around you? Work must never be an issue, or we might have to treat workers well. Society and societal structures must never be an issue, or we might have to care about each other on a more than…

> and then gaslights them into believing it's their fault for not coping with it.

I don't understand why you say that.

Are you saying therapy make people feel guilty of their own self?

Re: On Being a Science Writer and Managing a Mental Illness

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Here's another story of someone suffering from mental illness who should seek God as many are now doing and being healed. I speak as a converted atheist, hedge fund employee, and contract software developer. Visit a baptist church. "Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest."

I think this is a scummy reply because it is purely written to exploit vulnerable people and provide them baseless hope. You do not say how, what, or why your religion has done to help you and you make a broad sweeping statement that some thing (a god) will magically solve mental illness. If anything this sort of crap will prolong suffering, and or exacerbate the problems associated with mental illness because it's n…

If Santa Claus showed up at your doorstep and took you on a ride in his sleigh, you'd stop being an atheist. You no longer become an atheist when your experiences or reason casts doubt on it, same as no longer being religious. For some people, atheism is really weak, and tends to be held culturally in the same way religion used to be.

I think personally in the west atheism is more akin to victorian christianity..it's just a baseline belief "cultured" people hold, and generally is held without thinking much about the consequences as people go about their daily lives.

Re: On Being a Science Writer and Managing a Mental Illness

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> For one thing, choosing writing as a way of making a living can nurture insecurity and doubt—especially for those, like myself, who are early in their careers. For me, at least, publishing a story is like handing in an exam essay, an invitation for strict judgment by both the intended audience and my peers. I think people in tech tend to underappreciate the benefits of being able to just do the job and enjoy a (com…

> Being a writer, or a musician, on the other hand, entails a perennial anxiety over the success of whatever you're doing. How will you ever know if your next thing will be liked or not?

I'm sure most musicians don't care about that. It's big media that thinks this way, and coincidentally produces mostly stuff that real music-lovers find crap.

Re: On Being a Science Writer and Managing a Mental Illness

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> It's correlated but the following analysis assumes at least partly that being a writer is one possible factor for depression. And why shouldn't it be a possible factor? Correlation doesn't tell that it has to be a factor but neither the opposite.

Yes, maybe, but there's no proof so why assume it and make an article like this which doesn't even has any reserve about it (reread the paragraph I quoted if you doubt my claim) ? There's not even one "maybe" in his whole essay !

Ok, I'm really more bothered by the expected scientific rigorous from an essay like this.

He's a writer and is experiencing the difficulties of his work and how it effects his emotional well being. It shouldn't then really surprise that he sees a strong connection between his work as a writer and the depressions he has. That doesn't mean he's telling an objective truth about a writer's life, but he's telling a subjective "truth" of his life as a writer, and sometimes these subjective "truths" can tell you quite a bit about life.

Sometimes the HN crowd can get quite a bit annoying with its scientific thinking, because it's not always the appropiate method, and sometimes a single person can tell you more about a certain aspect of the world then any kind of scientific study.

I'm certainly not arguing against the scientific method, but to apply it in a reasonable way.

Re: On Being a Science Writer and Managing a Mental Illness

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reads like a medication pamphlet. therapy is more useful than drugs, even if drugs are needed eventually. but I think this follow the US school of thought, where therapy is just one session required for liability before you're sent to a psych who will prescribe a pill regimen on the very first session. unbelievable.

    > reads like a medication pamphlet
I did both. The therapy was of limited use. The pills were like a light switch that have simply turned off my mental illness with almost no side-effects.
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