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Re: StackOverflow for private teams in beta

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Post by chrisan »

dustinmoris wrote: post #37

This could be really useful, however I wonder how teams will find answers to their questions without a private Google channel :) I don't know anyone who actually finds the answer via SO search.

> I don't know anyone who actually finds the answer via SO search.

I had to load up the site just to look where the search box even was. Not that it is hidden by any means, just that my eyes follow google -> topic title -> green arrow -> scan other solutions/comments and I had no mental reference of their search bar in my head

Re: StackOverflow for private teams in beta

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Post by lowkeyokay »

dustinmoris wrote: post #37

This could be really useful, however I wonder how teams will find answers to their questions without a private Google channel :) I don't know anyone who actually finds the answer via SO search.

SO search never seem to find the answer I'm looking for, but once I start writing a question it almost always ends up finding a similar (answered) question. So their search works but perhaps it needs lots of input

Re: StackOverflow for private teams in beta

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Post by captainmuon »

kovek wrote: post #21
captainmuon wrote: post #16

This would be great for CERN. We do a lot of software development, but most of it is very bespoke, and you are often not going to get an answer on stackoverflow. Also there are confidentially requirements (it would be great if you could tag a post e.g. ATLAS-internal, CMS-internal, and then only people from your experiment could see that post). We probably have tens of thousands of members, so I think we have the cri…

I wonder if there had been some efforts to index all of the mailing lists into something like elastic search? Would elastic search help when a search's phrasing doesn't quite match phrases that have been indexed? Are there other solutions?

We are using a search solution, which I think is provided by Microsoft (http://search.cern.ch , I find it looks like one of these fake search engines when people on TV browse the internet ;-)). It works pretty well to index the mails, but could always be improved of course.

The bigger problem is that nobody wants to sign up for the traffic heavy support mailing lists. We actually have shifters who do that and try to answer the mails. If there was something that is "pull", not "push", or if I could just watch certain tags, it would be easier to participate.

Re: StackOverflow for private teams in beta

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Post by [deleted] »

659087 wrote: post #30
alexlmiller wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For context, I'm the GM of the Enterprise Team at Stack Overflow and have been working on it since we launched our full Enterprise product about 18 months ago. Enterprise is intended for large teams (at least 500 tech staff) who want to have their own completely isolated and standalone Stack Overflow community that can be run on-prem or in a private cloud. Enterprise deployments have full control over the system and…

> store their own knowledge (privately and securely) alongside the the public knowledgebase at stackoverflow.com I know this won't go over well here, since many depend on Stackoverflow for their "programming skills", but this sounds about as believable as Google pushing companies to store their secrets "privately" using Google Docs.

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Re: StackOverflow for private teams in beta

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Post by riquito »

I'm not convinced by the free beta. I cannot ask my team members to start using it and add knowledge into this system with the risk that we'll have to migrate everything back once the costs are announced (and we'd loose time (= money) in the process).

Re: StackOverflow for private teams in beta

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Post by enriquto »

captainmuon wrote: post #16

This would be great for CERN. We do a lot of software development, but most of it is very bespoke, and you are often not going to get an answer on stackoverflow. Also there are confidentially requirements (it would be great if you could tag a post e.g. ATLAS-internal, CMS-internal, and then only people from your experiment could see that post). We probably have tens of thousands of members, so I think we have the cri…

I don't understand... why would you want to keep your discussions private to each experiment? Certainly people from other experiments or from other research groups could have very similar interests.

Moreover, CERN is funded by the taxes of us european citizens. Does this research really need to be kept secret?

Re: StackOverflow for private teams in beta

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Post by laythea »

CameronBanga wrote: post #36

Really not a fan of the "free for now, we'll give you an idea of pricing in the future". I understand that the team at StackOverflow probably doesn't have an idea on pricing, but it makes it extremely difficult to jump on and try the product. I guess in that situation, our team should just wait until it's out and public. But a lot of these "free betas" go on for months or even years. I know this isn't always the case…

In my opinion, this is a tactic used when a company has less than maximum confidence in the product and want to test the water. Ie. It could be a great success and they will charge you $$$, or a complete failure and they will drop the product, or a "just ok" success, maybe due to the product itself being "ok". Even then best of these outcomes is not good (considering the risk of investing in the product early), so if they are not confident to charge 100%, I would not invest any significant time/resource into something like this. I'm out.

Re: StackOverflow for private teams in beta

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Post by neuromantik8086 »

captainmuon wrote: post #16

This would be great for CERN. We do a lot of software development, but most of it is very bespoke, and you are often not going to get an answer on stackoverflow. Also there are confidentially requirements (it would be great if you could tag a post e.g. ATLAS-internal, CMS-internal, and then only people from your experiment could see that post). We probably have tens of thousands of members, so I think we have the cri…

Have you looked at Biostar?

https://github.com/ialbert/biostar-central

Re: StackOverflow for private teams in beta

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Post by laythea »

Stack overflow may offer lots of fancy features, but, in my opinion, the essence of what they do should be easily achievable by any competent group of engineers. Genuine question - I don't get it, what does this bring to the table? A voting system?
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