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Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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This is not the same (boards/aggregators) as Yelp, HN, Reddit, Stackoverflow or various other user generated content review sites. This is because most if not all the jobs come from the companies website. They are a search middleman similar to how Google is for almost everything else. They don't provide an ecosystem like say HN, Stackoverflow, Yelp, etc. In some ways they steal the content. Sites like Indeed are basi…

The big companies post all of their jobs on their website, but the smaller companies definitely do not. In developing countries it is even worse. In India it is common for jobs to be posted on a website as PDFs, which are scan/images of printed pages. There is added value. Indeed, and plenty of other job sites, have done things like quick apply which bypasses the horrific process of legacy ATSs like Oracle's Taleo. P…

(re: travel aggregators) Isn't one of those companies ITA software which was bought by Google a couple of years ago? Which is the other one: Expedia or Priceline? What about CheapOair? Hipmunk?

Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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They’ve now had 4 years. 4 goddamn years to update the Firefox version, and they’ve just removed features instead.

That sounds like it was unworkable in Firefox. Maybe FF just isn't a very good browser? You can be standards-compliant while implementing the standards with performance problems and ugly corner-cases.

It works in Firefox. Always has. Change the UA, and it just works.

This is the same story as when Google made Inbox a "Chrome-Exclusive" that also didn’t run in Safari, Opera, or even fucking Chromium.

It’s just anticompetitiveness.

Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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Correction: She didn't onboard Snap. Maybe you meant Spotify? Source: I worked with Snap when I was on the Google Cloud Platform team in 2012/2013.

She got them to sign a significant multi-year $1B+ commitment - if that isn't a win, I don't know what is.

How do you spend 1Bi in hosting costs? That's mind-blowing

Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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I was just about to select a recruitment management service. Both Lever and Greenhouse has "call us" pricing, and sadly Google Hire follows the same trend. Only Workable has a clear pricing page, which gives them a big plus in my book. Since we're on G Suite, Hire could be a natural fit but the requirement to book a demo (and the accompanying upside-down shaking to see how much money falls out of our pockets) is a bi…

Hi there! I'm Nate, Founder and CTO of Lever. Appreciate your feedback! As you've discovered, many B2B companies that primarily sell via inside or field sales do not post their pricing directly. Reserving the conversation around pricing until after you are in contact with a sales person is often helpful, because these products do have very different capabilities. We provide a consultative sales approach, listening ca…

"Reserving the conversation around pricing until after you are in contact with a sales person is often helpful" -> such a BS. Everyone in the world knows the reason behind that is charging differently for the same product according to a given company budget.

Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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My company makes recruiting software and it we knew it was only a matter of time (a couple of years ago... now its obvious) before Google would enter the recruiting industry. Particularly because the major players other than LinkedIn basically rely entirely on Google. All Indeed, Monster, CareerBuilder do is buy Google Ads and then essentially resells the marketing. This is similar to the situation TripAdvisor is in…

Honestly the work to be done in search in general is still gigantic, and it's even bigger in job. Despite having tons of stores of all sorts (app stores by microsoft apple and google, movies streaming stores like netflix, game stores like steam, ...) no one has truly found a way to solve the discoverability problem that feels really satisfying. Some are decent, but that's mostly by sending you so many stuff at once t…

There was a company that did app discovery, Quixey. Unfortunately it shut down this year. They were just unable to find a business model.

Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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Google does not use corporate customer's data for any type of commercial use, it's only used for the customer's own use. As such, they do not have "enormous troves of trojan horse data" as they are not allowed (by their own terms) to use it for anything unrelated to the company itself.

I said nothing about corporate customers . I'm talking about individual accounts, and individual devices. Google knows where I go, who I talk to, how long I'm at places, how long I spend in the office, and on, and on, and on. And at an aggregate, they know how busy every shop is, the types of people that visit, etc. They're quite forthright about this. Through personal accounts -- which Google quite openly mines -- G…

It is in violation of Google's core principles and policies, and will never happen. Ever googler understands, and has it hammered into their brains repeatedly, that the worst thing the company could do is breach user trust by exposing or trading on user/customer data.

Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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IANAL, but I think they would possibly be in breach of their own privacy policy: > How we use information we collect > We use the information we collect from all of our services to provide, maintain, protect and improve them, to develop new ones, and to protect Google and our users. We also use this information to offer you tailored content – like giving you more relevant search results and ads. [...] > We will ask f…

It sounds like the kind of thing that would cause an existential crisis to the G Suite unit ($1B+ annual revenue) when discovered or leaked. This would have follow-on effects to other Google brands. Also massive liability for breach of contract or even perhaps fraud. In the G Suite contract, do customers indemnify Google from damages above a certain amount for privacy breaches? I haven't seen the T&Cs, just the priva…

There is a standard indemnification clause that is sometimes negotiated slightly one way or another by individual customers.

Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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Right. But as a nefarious employee, that's Google's problem. By the time it comes to light, I'm already off laying on a beach in a country without an extradition treaty.

I suspect very few individual Google employees have the unsupervised access required to pull off something like this.

And the ones who do still have every action logged.

Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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> Bebop, a company Google acquired last year for $380 Million > When Google decided to bring Diane Greene on full time to run Google Cloud, they had to purchase her company in order to facilitate that Well, that's an expensive hire.

She donated all of her share ($150m) to charity to boot.

For an extra $30MM in tax write-offs... because clearly she stands to make more taxable income than the $150MM in stock she donated: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10844592.
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