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Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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Post by rdtsc »

I bet in the future this will be enhanced with Google providing various stats and scores based on the social and advertising profile people have.

For example a % score with something like this: "Trustworthiness", "Political activism", "Obedience", "Addictions", "Laziness", "Morality", "Extroversion" etc.

It will be opaque and derived from their "secret sauce" by scouring GMail, DNS queries from your IP, phone calls you made on your Android phone, stuff you bought and search for in Chrome and so on.

Some companies and even landlords check credit scores when you apply. Criminal records. Border patrol checks social account postings. Imagine having access to all non-public stuff Google and Facebook has.

I wonder if that some point they'd know people better than people know themselves at. I kinda experienced that with Netflix when I was a subscriber. It suggested movies that at first glance I wouldn't think I'd enjoy but the algorithm had figured me out enough that if I took the suggestion, it usually was right and I ended up liking the movie. It was a pleasant and creepy surprise at the same time.

Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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Post by Giroflex »

bigtones wrote: post #142

The 'Hire' product just launched today actually came from an acquisition, it was not developed internally by Google at all. It was developed by Bebop, a company Google acquired last year for $380 Million that was founded by Diane Greene (Founder of VMWare). When Google decided to bring Diane Greene on full time to run Google Cloud, they had to purchase her company in order to facilitate that. Bebop originally had asp…

> Bebop, a company Google acquired last year for $380 Million

> When Google decided to bring Diane Greene on full time to run Google Cloud, they had to purchase her company in order to facilitate that

Well, that's an expensive hire.

Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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Post by sah2ed »

peteretep wrote: post #106
Androider wrote: post #30

I was just about to select a recruitment management service. Both Lever and Greenhouse has "call us" pricing, and sadly Google Hire follows the same trend. Only Workable has a clear pricing page, which gives them a big plus in my book. Since we're on G Suite, Hire could be a natural fit but the requirement to book a demo (and the accompanying upside-down shaking to see how much money falls out of our pockets) is a bi…

I know this space well. I like Recruitee.

Could you compare and contrast the ones you've tried and why you eventually settled on Recruitee?

Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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Post by fixermark »

s73ver wrote: post #147
fixermark wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Safari and Chrome are using the same basic webkit rendering engine with minimal mutations from each other. Firefox's engine is different and makes many different decisions with regards to implementation detail. Since the web standards rarely constrain things like, say, time to complete a reflow step in mutating a page when a DOM element has its visibility property changed, standards-compliant browsers can make differ…

However, I do think you'd be hard pressed to claim that Google does not have the resources to test and make sure that it does work on mobile Firefox.

So now assume they test and find it doesn't work on mobile Firefox. What should they do? Refrain from rolling out the design to Chrome and Safari until Firefox performance catches up, or roll out the functionality differently on different browsers?

Sounds like, based on the descriptions here, they're doing the latter, right? Infinite scrolling on Chrome vs. paged viewing on Firefox, for instance.

Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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Post by mseebach »

linkregister wrote: post #159
mseebach wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IANAL, but I think they would possibly be in breach of their own privacy policy: > How we use information we collect > We use the information we collect from all of our services to provide, maintain, protect and improve them, to develop new ones, and to protect Google and our users. We also use this information to offer you tailored content – like giving you more relevant search results and ads. [...] > We will ask f…

It sounds like the kind of thing that would cause an existential crisis to the G Suite unit ($1B+ annual revenue) when discovered or leaked. This would have follow-on effects to other Google brands. Also massive liability for breach of contract or even perhaps fraud. In the G Suite contract, do customers indemnify Google from damages above a certain amount for privacy breaches? I haven't seen the T&Cs, just the priva…

That's basically my rationale for trusting Google with my data: They have both the means (lots of well paid smart people) and the interest (a substantial leak/misuse of my data could well be a fatal event for Google) to take care of it.

> In the G Suite contract, do customers indemnify Google from damages above a certain amount for privacy breaches?

I don't see how they wouldn't.

Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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Post by komali2 »

lettergram wrote: post #10

I for one, will never use a Google product again. They level of creepiness and data they have on all their users is insane. I personally have switched to DuckDuckGo, Fastmail, FireFox (the mobile browser is awesome btw), and will replace Android as soon as a viable alternative is presented. Smooth sailing. The problem with Google, is they are building a repository for themselves, but also for government. Couple that…

I can see the n-gate summary now: "Google finds another way to make money by spying on people. Hackernews ignores the article and instead settles in for a good old iPhone vs Android debate."

Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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Post by zmillman »

skuhn wrote: post #39
Androider wrote: post #30

I was just about to select a recruitment management service. Both Lever and Greenhouse has "call us" pricing, and sadly Google Hire follows the same trend. Only Workable has a clear pricing page, which gives them a big plus in my book. Since we're on G Suite, Hire could be a natural fit but the requirement to book a demo (and the accompanying upside-down shaking to see how much money falls out of our pockets) is a bi…

Stay away from Lever. It's a slick web application along the lines of the fanciness of Asana's interface. What it isn't is a sane applicant tracking system. It doesn't reliably notify you when candidates apply. It supports virtually zero job board integrations. It very much wants you to adapt to it, with very little support for the other way around. The interface is over-complicated to the point of being unusable for…

How recently have you used Lever? The job board integrations got a lot better near the end of last year

Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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Post by fauigerzigerk »

So how long until Google offers screening/scoring/vetting of applicants based on the data it has about all of us?

All voluntary of course, if you can afford to decline. This isn't far fetched. Employers have asked to access Facebook accounts before, which is extreme and will never catch on (I think).

But allowing Google to rank and match applicants to particular roles may seem harmless enough to many, and then it will become very difficult for anyone to say no.

Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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Post by ammon »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #124
readhn wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Linkedin doesnt have resumes?? Every linkedin profile is technically a resume. Dates, roles, qualifications are all there along with references.

"Resumé" appears to have a very special meaning to some people. Triplebyte specifically advertises a "no-resumes" process. But when I interviewed with them, the first thing they asked was "where have you worked before, and what did you do there?"

We (Triplebyte) don't ask engineers where they've worked until the end of the final interview. It's the last thing we ask (after all the technical evaluation and scoring is done). We regularly find and pass great programmers who are totally self-taught (and would have been screened out by any resume screen process). We ask about previous work at the end because we want statistics on who is applying to us. This lets us compare our process to more traditional credential screens (I write about this on our blog)
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