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Re: Google relaunches Glass for businesses

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Post by dragonwriter »

dmurray wrote: post #205
projectramo wrote: post #25

I know Glass, or something like it, will be great. But I don't know which combination of features + killer app will unlock the thing. HN has probably mentioned this before but is there a reason Google makes announcements on Medium and not on Blogger? I would do the same thing if I had a choice, but Google could just make the formatting on Blogger better.

> HN has probably mentioned this before but is there a reason Google makes announcements on Medium and not on Blogger? They mix it up: the "Transfer Appliance" announcement also on the HN front page is on googleblog.com. Different teams of course. https://cloudplatform.googleblog.com/2017/07/introducing-Tra...

> They mix it up: the "Transfer Appliance" announcement also on the HN front page is on googleblog.com. Different teams of course.

Not just different teams, different companies. Glass is X, and they don’t use Google Blogger. Transfer Appliance is Google, and they do use Google Blogger.

Both Google and X are Alphabet subsidiaries, but they aren’t the same company.

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Post by acdha »

methodin wrote: post #188
acdha wrote: post #180

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you followed the news at the time there was a ton of coverage in mainstream media with bold claims about how society was going to be transformed and it was way outside of just developer circles. For example, the New Yorker is not typically considered a developer site and yet they have a bunch of articles like http://www.newyorker.com/tech/elements/glass-before-google and http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2013/08/0…

Of course those articles were written with the goal of getting people to read it so it's not like they were grounded in reality.

I'm not sure how that connects to the question of whether it was promoted outside of developer circles.

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Post by geon »

tpeo wrote: post #66
aresant wrote: post #9

This is so !@%!@ cool. Check out the A/B test of a technician with / without the software referenced in the article: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5gXuZp25f0 Then here's a video that gives a sense of the software's interface: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5HOHNECW20 Very workflow oriented with nice communication and lookup features. This is the kind of small optimization stuff that is going to be revolutionary…

That was my reaction... about 3 to 4 years ago when I saw the Epson Moverio BT-100 engine maintenance training demonstration ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVV5tUmky6c ). It's not as sleek as Glass, but it's in the same spirit. Point being that Google isn't quite breaking new ground by selling augmented reality to businesses. Rather, it seems that they're trying to make the most out their Glass product now that it…

Glass is not ar.

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Post by theptip »

kbenson wrote: post #105
theptip wrote: post #60

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Good info there -- but I think I wasn't clear, I was suggesting moving the ring binder onto a table/rack right by the work-space, using something like a music stand. Seems like if the mechanic just had to turn around to access the ring-binder, instead of walking down a flight of stairs, the efficiency difference would be less.

Likely because the platform he is on is not static, and is likely a standard part for multiple technicians, and possible with more than one on it at a time. It looks like the engine is stationary, and the station moves to where he is needed. If that's the case, they could use some semi-specialized platforms for different uses, some with tables for manuals and parts, some without to accommodate more people at once. Th…

Interesting thoughts, agree there's a lot of hidden complexity in optimizing work flows. Would love to see further discussion on this if you have any good sources.

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Post by ajmurmann »

This feels like it's getting us one step closer to the vision of the early stage control by AI that is described in Manna: http://marshallbrain.com/manna1.htm

Obviously the AI part isn't there but we now have a fabulous interface to have complex tasked aided/guided by AI. This in combination with what's already going on in Amazon warehouses and we are pretty close to the description of how fast food restaurants are run in the story.

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Post by cdubzzz »

maccard wrote: post #143
cdubzzz wrote: post #97

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I'm not sure about that. What is your expectation? That the doctor or someone else will take the time to re-watch the recording of your interaction? How is that better than just extending the interaction? As an aside, is this a common thing? I had an appointment to get a tdap booster a few weeks ago and spent a good 30 mins. chatting with my doctor.

Honestly I don't know what I would prefer. certainly I would prefer more quality time with my doctor, but at what cost, I don't know. Here at least (uk) yes. Al of the practices I've visited have strict 10 minute appointments and the doctor will cut you off at 10 minutes. If I go in for a flu jab(I'm asthmatic and at high risk), I expect to be in and out in about 2 minutes, and I don't see the doctor; it's normally a…

Interesting. I probably have a skewed view because I currently have very good employer-provided health care (US). I don't think I've ever spent less than 15 minutes with my doctor for an appointment. She also takes calls and texts and I have made same-day appointments (within hours) in the past.

However it is perhaps worth noting that the practice charges a $250/year "concierge fee" and from what I've read that's a very low fee comparable to other offices that use that model. Perhaps I would be less likely to go there if I had a high premium to pay in addition.

But even with previous employers and plans across the US, I can't recall a doctor who has ever rushed me out of appointments.

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Post by pferde »

oliwarner wrote: post #117

Some of this stuff is so obviously cool but remember the cost of efficiency. 30% time saved means one person does more in their day. This has a personal toll because working less intensively gave you time to think and physically rest. You're at it non-stop now. And that also means you need 30% fewer employees to manage the same workload. That's going to be the trade-off here. How many people will have to go just to o…

I see it as same thing as using a programming IDE that shows you e.g. available method names and argument types for the API calls as you type, versus having to look them up in API docs in a separate window or monitor.

Re: Google relaunches Glass for businesses

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Post by Sharlin »

Zak wrote: post #194
mirimir wrote: post #146

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Yeah. I really don't get why they focused on its gargoyle feature, which (rightly so) raised serious concerns about privacy, and downplayed AR. The obvious target market, other than geeks, would have been bikers. They'd find both gargoyle and AR very useful for swarm coordination. And military, of course. Perfect for infantry. But that's probably in quiet development.

> which (rightly so) raised serious concerns about privacy I always thought the privacy concerns were overblown: If it's about users surreptitiously recording others, wearing the really conspicuous gadget known to contain a camera on your head is a really ineffectual way to do that. A smartphone in a shirt pocket would be better, and surveillance devices intended to be concealed better (and cheaper) still. If it's ab…

It was never about secretly taking photos. It was all about having an obvious contraption on your head that might not be recording or not. That makes people a) uncomfortable and b) conclude that you either don't care or just lack the social skills to realize that. It's not like recording secretly with a concealed cellphone, it's like overtly aiming your cellphone camera at someone while interacting with them, whether it's actually recording or not.

One might argue that people should get used to that, and at some point they probably will, but turns out it's a somewhat more difficult task trying to adapt people to your product than vice versa.

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Post by SXX »

skinnymuch wrote: post #99
giobox wrote: post #32

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> I honestly though(t) Glass would have done better if it had no recording capabilities built-in. It would have substantially reduced the creepiness factor. Outside of the tech community this is a distinction I imagine few would make - most people upon seeing a camera are going to not unreasonably assume it can record. I still see large numbers of people taping over their laptop webcams even when they are turned off.…

> I still see large numbers of people taping over their laptop webcams even when they are turned off. Like Zuckerberg does for his mic and webcam: https://imgur.com/zxDHM Or direct image link: https://i.imgur.com/OxWY3FV_d.jpg

Correct link: https://i.imgur.com/OxWY3FV.jpg
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