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Re: Google relaunches Glass for businesses

#91
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No info on the HW, that's the interesting part. How did they solve battery life issues etc

The battery is slightly larger on the new Glass, but the processor is also better (Intel based). So the operational time is appox the same with much improved performance.

Re: Google relaunches Glass for businesses

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post #7
post #5

No info on the HW, that's the interesting part. How did they solve battery life issues etc

Even when given to developers the chip was last-gen IIRC. If they took a modern processor with the same power (or possibly more) I'd assume they could lower the power draw by a fair bit. Did glass have cellular? Dropping that could do a lot too. It's a good question.

Glass did not have cellular, just BT & WiFi iirc.

Re: Google relaunches Glass for businesses

#93
post #37

I don't know what it is about it, but the design is so cringey. Even on a professional, it just looks... bad.

"looks bad" is subjective. If it's useful, people will wear it, and after people start wearing it and you get used to how it looks, it'll stop looking bad.

You know what else looks bad? Hard Hats.

Re: Google relaunches Glass for businesses

#94
post #62

I know Glass, or something like it, will be great. But I don't know which combination of features + killer app will unlock the thing. HN has probably mentioned this before but is there a reason Google makes announcements on Medium and not on Blogger? I would do the same thing if I had a choice, but Google could just make the formatting on Blogger better.

For me it would be facial recognition crossed with something like linkedin. I really struggle with recognising people and it has a large impact on how well I can network at informal events such as tech meetups. Others will recognise each other from similar events and sometimes might recognise me "Oh weren't you at ?". At which point I look very rude when I have no idea whatsoever who they are. So some tech to aid rec…

The problem is - most of the cool and useful personal applications of glass fly in the face of various social expectations. The very idea you could be recording someone caused a backlash the last time, and that's nowhere near doing facial recognition...

Re: Google relaunches Glass for businesses

#95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wait, isn't that the same person in both videos? In that case, this is just a marketing spot demonstrating how it "could" work, not an "A/B test".

Looks like it could be the same person, but wouldn't that make more sense? If it's different people then you're not just changing one aspect, the glasses in this case. The worker presumably has to do the same work many times. So he isn't doing the work in the video for the first time regardless. It's something he does regularly. They could do the work with glasses a couple of times and compare it with non-glass work…

If the worker did the Glass test after he did the non-Glass test, his productivity/efficiency increase could be attributed to memory and not just Glass.

Re: Google relaunches Glass for businesses

#96
post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your medical records would be far more secure on Google's servers than almost any hospital server.

That kind of information should never, ever leave the hospital/doctor's office LAN in the first place.

Don't records and info need to be available to other medical personnel? What if you have to go to your local hospital? Having all that info on your doctor's office lan won't help you at a potentially crucial time. Or am I missing something?

Re: Google relaunches Glass for businesses

#97
post #51
post #8

>>Glass is also helping healthcare professionals. Doctors at Dignity Health have been using Glass with an application our partner Augmedix calls “a remote scribe”. My primary care doctor has a human scribe. The scribe is a recent graduate (BS), planning on going to med school next year. Being physically in the room, watching the doctor work is a great benefit to her. I'm not sure she'd benefit as much from watching a…

My primary care doctor struggles to take notes while talking to me in the 10 minutes we have allocated for an appointment. This would be a huge win. I do share your concern about being recorded as a patient though.

I'm not sure about that. What is your expectation? That the doctor or someone else will take the time to re-watch the recording of your interaction? How is that better than just extending the interaction?

As an aside, is this a common thing? I had an appointment to get a tdap booster a few weeks ago and spent a good 30 mins. chatting with my doctor.

Re: Google relaunches Glass for businesses

#98
post #6

A lot of fluff here, but not much substance. I see how having large manuals or paper lists in your field of view could be very useful. Does it work well for employees with classes? I assume they've updated the chip inside to something less power-hungry. Does it get reasonable battery life now? Why do doctors need Glass to record notes in the background? Couldn't any computer run that software?

It is not about recording the interactions, it is about processing the content. Every time a doctor has to interact with a computer it is time they are not interacting with their patient.

Augmedix has teams of medical scribes who watch the video stream from the glass and actively scribe the data and entering it into EHRs (electronic health records), so the doctors are free to spend the time actually talking to their patients.

Doctors have used voice recorders for decades, but those are not as effective for several reasons:

1) They need to be transcribed later, and since they are audio recording without the video it often means that doctor has to do it since they are the only one with context. That can add several hours of work a day. By sending it over to a remote scribe the patient gets more of the doctors time, the doctor spends less time on paperwork related to each patient, and the data is available in the EHR sooner.

2) If the doctor has any questions about past results they can just ask the scribe who finds the info and sends them a text message back which is displayed in the HUD. That takes less time than swapping to a laptop.

Now one could imagine that in the future a lot of the tasks could be done by AI rather than humans, but if you have looked at medical IT and EHRs you know we are a long way from that. In any event using glass would still be a win: the AI would probably work better getting the live video stream (to improve its ability to accurately chart, etc), and patients tend to be happier when their doctor is interacting with them and not a computer.

Disclaimer: My girlfriend works for Augmedix

Re: Google relaunches Glass for businesses

#99
post #32

This is cool and all, and I'm glad the concept didn't totally die, but will consumers ever see this type of wearable tech again? Some people shelled out over $1k when Google initially offered glass prototypes, only to be left with unmaintained devices. I honestly though Glass would have done better if it had no recording capabilities built-in. It would have substantially reduced the creepiness factor. It's sad that n…

> I honestly though(t) Glass would have done better if it had no recording capabilities built-in. It would have substantially reduced the creepiness factor. Outside of the tech community this is a distinction I imagine few would make - most people upon seeing a camera are going to not unreasonably assume it can record. I still see large numbers of people taping over their laptop webcams even when they are turned off.…

> I still see large numbers of people taping over their laptop webcams even when they are turned off.

Like Zuckerberg does for his mic and webcam:

https://imgur.com/zxDHM

Or direct image link: https://i.imgur.com/OxWY3FV_d.jpg

Re: Google relaunches Glass for businesses

#100
post #32

This is cool and all, and I'm glad the concept didn't totally die, but will consumers ever see this type of wearable tech again? Some people shelled out over $1k when Google initially offered glass prototypes, only to be left with unmaintained devices. I honestly though Glass would have done better if it had no recording capabilities built-in. It would have substantially reduced the creepiness factor. It's sad that n…

> I honestly though(t) Glass would have done better if it had no recording capabilities built-in. It would have substantially reduced the creepiness factor. Outside of the tech community this is a distinction I imagine few would make - most people upon seeing a camera are going to not unreasonably assume it can record. I still see large numbers of people taping over their laptop webcams even when they are turned off.…

It isn't just outside of tech that people cover their webcams. Mark Zuckerberg does it[1]. EFF sells webcam covers[2]. James Comey does it (although maybe he's not exactly tech)[3]. I've seen articles claiming Snowden does it, but I can't find a good source, that might just be rumors.

[1] https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/jun/22/mark-zuck...

[2] https://supporters.eff.org/shop/laptop-camera-cover-set

[3] https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/04/08/473548674...

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