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Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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The OP seems concerned about privacy. Apple certainly has a lot of PR activity promoting privacy of their products. But at the same time it seems so many websites, apps, companies, ISPs, etc. are hoping to track their users much more than before. Perhaps even sell profiles on their users to advertisers or other tech companies. Apple also seems to be a fairly secretive company. Their products have historically felt mo…

Apple takes your money up front so they don't need to violate user privacy for business reasons.

Apple also sucks at using user data to make better products compared to Google, so it's perfect for them to claim concern for privacy as a business strategy.

Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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Stay away from Lever. It's a slick web application along the lines of the fanciness of Asana's interface. What it isn't is a sane applicant tracking system. It doesn't reliably notify you when candidates apply. It supports virtually zero job board integrations. It very much wants you to adapt to it, with very little support for the other way around. The interface is over-complicated to the point of being unusable for…

All true. And to be honest I have always been very turned off by their boastful "We only hire 50/50 Male/Female developer team." It's so in your face, it's like "why not hire the best person for the job?" Or when I see their internal job ads here, its like "Gee, I wonder if this is for a Male engineering role or a Female engineering role," or "Hope they didn't hire a bunch of dudes last week." So for a variety of rea…

Who says they aren't hiring quality candidates? Saying you are maintaining a 50:50 team just means you continue searching for a qualified man or woman to maintain the ratio instead of settling for someone overrepresented in the industry.

Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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My company makes recruiting software and it we knew it was only a matter of time (a couple of years ago... now its obvious) before Google would enter the recruiting industry. Particularly because the major players other than LinkedIn basically rely entirely on Google. All Indeed, Monster, CareerBuilder do is buy Google Ads and then essentially resells the marketing. This is similar to the situation TripAdvisor is in…

In positive news, it'll probably be only a couple of years until Google gets bored of being in that space and either shutters the product or spins it off to an independent company.

It's part of Gsuite, so that's unlikely.

Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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post #164

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I would argue that recruiting is and has always been a strategic issue at Google.

If you follow this line of thinking, Apple, Microsoft, Tesla, SpaceX, Amazon and many others will also start to compete on the hiring software market.

Should they not?

Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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I for one, will never use a Google product again. They level of creepiness and data they have on all their users is insane. I personally have switched to DuckDuckGo, Fastmail, FireFox (the mobile browser is awesome btw), and will replace Android as soon as a viable alternative is presented. Smooth sailing. The problem with Google, is they are building a repository for themselves, but also for government. Couple that…

Maybe you can choose to use only the open source parts of Android?

Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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It's easy to critique them for being too big, but what solution do you have? Would you propose that they just... stop scaling? Stop making new products? I realize that they are really big, and with more products, they get more data, but imagine for one second that your goal truly was to help customers and provide them with as many useful tools as possible, what options would you have? You either make more products th…

> Would you propose that they just... stop scaling? Stop making new products? Yes. I want an economy where we have millions of tiny companies, each doing one thing, and doing that well. Like the German Mittelstand.

Having Amazon split up into dozens of smaller companies for different categories just sounds really annoying to me.

Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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The 'Hire' product just launched today actually came from an acquisition, it was not developed internally by Google at all. It was developed by Bebop, a company Google acquired last year for $380 Million that was founded by Diane Greene (Founder of VMWare). When Google decided to bring Diane Greene on full time to run Google Cloud, they had to purchase her company in order to facilitate that. Bebop originally had asp…

> Bebop, a company Google acquired last year for $380 Million > When Google decided to bring Diane Greene on full time to run Google Cloud, they had to purchase her company in order to facilitate that Well, that's an expensive hire.

She donated all of her share ($150m) to charity to boot.

Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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I for one, will never use a Google product again. They level of creepiness and data they have on all their users is insane. I personally have switched to DuckDuckGo, Fastmail, FireFox (the mobile browser is awesome btw), and will replace Android as soon as a viable alternative is presented. Smooth sailing. The problem with Google, is they are building a repository for themselves, but also for government. Couple that…

It's easy to critique them for being too big, but what solution do you have? Would you propose that they just... stop scaling? Stop making new products? I realize that they are really big, and with more products, they get more data, but imagine for one second that your goal truly was to help customers and provide them with as many useful tools as possible, what options would you have? You either make more products th…

> but what solution do you have?

It isn't easy, but as long as nation states are plausibly more powerful than Google, we—humanity—can hope.

Use antitrust to inhibit moves like the one under discussion.

Use privacy legislation to plug the Google data vacuum nozzle.

Suspend net neutrality in ways calculated to allow ISPs to suck Google dry, while not hurting anybody else too much.

Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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All true. And to be honest I have always been very turned off by their boastful "We only hire 50/50 Male/Female developer team." It's so in your face, it's like "why not hire the best person for the job?" Or when I see their internal job ads here, its like "Gee, I wonder if this is for a Male engineering role or a Female engineering role," or "Hope they didn't hire a bunch of dudes last week." So for a variety of rea…

Who says they aren't hiring quality candidates? Saying you are maintaining a 50:50 team just means you continue searching for a qualified man or woman to maintain the ratio instead of settling for someone overrepresented in the industry.

It's not entirely clear to me how that wouldn't be illegal.
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