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Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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Isn't the replacement for Android right now iOS? Still proprietary but Apple seems to take a much tougher stance on privacy.

It seems more a marketing strategy than a real belief in user privacy. For example, see the latest rejection of ad-blocking VPN apps from the App Store https://9to5mac.com/2017/07/15/apple-reportedly-shifts-app-s...

I've never been able to take seriously the argument that anything Apple is "just marketing", and I'm not about to now.

Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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Let's see how many businesses are destroyed and how much money Google makes because of this. It's a shame they can't just stand back and let people use websites like Indeed, Monster, JobSite among others and let them get on with it and just make money from the ads. Do they not make enough already?

Then maybe those companies should stop sucking. If Google can make a better recruiting experience, then they deserve my money, not other companies who suck. That's the free market!

You have to rank for "language" in " location" first having a purty site one the punter lands on it is all very well and good.

I suspect job ads might go the way of price comparison sites where its now pay to play - its why relex (Elsevier) sold all its job businesses a few years back

Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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Linkedin doesnt have resumes?? Every linkedin profile is technically a resume. Dates, roles, qualifications are all there along with references.

Linkedin isn't optimized as a physical resume. If all of the important information doesn't fit on one page, in a way that is nicely organized and looks good, then it is not a resume. Nobody should ever print out their linkedin profile and then hand it to a recruiter.

LinkedIn has a PDF export and I see plenty of exported LinkedIn profiles when doing candidate interviews.

Seems to work for a lot of people.

Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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A question I've always wondered -- If Google, or an employee at Google, used ML (or just classic techniques) to analyze the enormous, enormous troves of trojan horse data they have on the employees of virtually every organization across the globe, would it be illegal if they traded on that data? They could surely accurately call virtually any trend before anyone. They could see when morale at a firm drops, when hours…

Google does not use corporate customer's data for any type of commercial use, it's only used for the customer's own use. As such, they do not have "enormous troves of trojan horse data" as they are not allowed (by their own terms) to use it for anything unrelated to the company itself.

I said nothing about corporate customers. I'm talking about individual accounts, and individual devices. Google knows where I go, who I talk to, how long I'm at places, how long I spend in the office, and on, and on, and on. And at an aggregate, they know how busy every shop is, the types of people that visit, etc. They're quite forthright about this. Through personal accounts -- which Google quite openly mines -- Google has an astronomical amount of data about every business.

Google knows more about worker habits than employers. They know more about your city than your municipality. Etc. Etc.

Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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Honestly the work to be done in search in general is still gigantic, and it's even bigger in job. Despite having tons of stores of all sorts (app stores by microsoft apple and google, movies streaming stores like netflix, game stores like steam, ...) no one has truly found a way to solve the discoverability problem that feels really satisfying. Some are decent, but that's mostly by sending you so many stuff at once t…

To solve the appstore search issue Apple should just check what apps my imessage contacts are using and then recommend those apps to me.

One of the main selling points of Apple is that they don't build as many social graphs as the other guys.

Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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I was just about to select a recruitment management service. Both Lever and Greenhouse has "call us" pricing, and sadly Google Hire follows the same trend. Only Workable has a clear pricing page, which gives them a big plus in my book. Since we're on G Suite, Hire could be a natural fit but the requirement to book a demo (and the accompanying upside-down shaking to see how much money falls out of our pockets) is a bi…

I'm pretty sure Lever and Greenhouse have price gouged in the past (anchored against the price of hiring expensive developers), so I've basically stayed away from them. It's ridiculous to spend thousands of dollars for an ATS, especially if your hiring needs fluctuate (which many do). Workable is honestly great. Super simple and straight forward pricing. Couldn't recommend it more and have it used in two separate places.

Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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I just don't get how this is considered "normal" - they create the ecosystem, let it thrive with the content users generate, and after some category/apps reach a certain interesting threshold, Google gathers all the data they have access to and use their massive distribution system to deploy their version built on the back of their userbase. I think it's dangerous, in all honesty. The same goes for Apple/Facebook/Ama…

This is not the same (boards/aggregators) as Yelp, HN, Reddit, Stackoverflow or various other user generated content review sites. This is because most if not all the jobs come from the companies website. They are a search middleman similar to how Google is for almost everything else. They don't provide an ecosystem like say HN, Stackoverflow, Yelp, etc. In some ways they steal the content. Sites like Indeed are basi…

I had heard a while back (from a startup client I did some consulting work for (built and delivered a prototype), and who was in the HR/Job web app space), that Indeed.com was bought for ~$1bn by Recruiter.com . I wonder if they made money back on that buy.

Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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A question I've always wondered -- If Google, or an employee at Google, used ML (or just classic techniques) to analyze the enormous, enormous troves of trojan horse data they have on the employees of virtually every organization across the globe, would it be illegal if they traded on that data? They could surely accurately call virtually any trend before anyone. They could see when morale at a firm drops, when hours…

IANAL, but I think they would possibly be in breach of their own privacy policy: > How we use information we collect > We use the information we collect from all of our services to provide, maintain, protect and improve them, to develop new ones, and to protect Google and our users. We also use this information to offer you tailored content – like giving you more relevant search results and ads. [...] > We will ask f…

It sounds like the kind of thing that would cause an existential crisis to the G Suite unit ($1B+ annual revenue) when discovered or leaked. This would have follow-on effects to other Google brands. Also massive liability for breach of contract or even perhaps fraud.

In the G Suite contract, do customers indemnify Google from damages above a certain amount for privacy breaches? I haven't seen the T&Cs, just the privacy policy.

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> All Indeed, Monster, CareerBuilder do > is buy Google Ads and then essentially > resells the marketing That is true of Indeed, but true neither of Monster nor CareerBuilder. CareerBuilder sell a lot of HR software, as well. > if you wondering the what the difference > is between aggregator and job board Generally one pays for the latter and not the former, in fact.

> That is true of Indeed, but true neither of Monster nor CareerBuilder. CareerBuilder sell a lot of HR software, as well. Actually they all sell additional HR software (I know this intimately well but unfortunately I can't legally go into the details) but just like Google they make most of their money by selling advertising space. > Generally one pays for the latter and not the former, in fact. Originally aggregator…

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