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Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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Post by hdhzy »

w00bl3ywook wrote: post #17
lettergram wrote: post #10

I for one, will never use a Google product again. They level of creepiness and data they have on all their users is insane. I personally have switched to DuckDuckGo, Fastmail, FireFox (the mobile browser is awesome btw), and will replace Android as soon as a viable alternative is presented. Smooth sailing. The problem with Google, is they are building a repository for themselves, but also for government. Couple that…

Stay in your bunker and don't use AMP on your website.

Funny because AMP was exactly the reason why I switched to DuckDuckGo (although https://encrypted.google.com is also a viable option).

One more thing to remember - Firefox for Android has AdBlock extensions (e.g uBlock). My personal experience with mobile ads is best described as vibrating, redirecting scams that just drove me nuts.

Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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Post by halite »

pasharayan wrote: post #2

It's easy to forget, but LinkedIn doesn't have rich resume data of candidates. With Hire, Google now gets rich resume & employee data - data, when coupled with search history, that can now be used to build better user profiles than before. Given this, "Hire" is (or could become) a trojan horse into replacing the network effect that LinkedIn has created.

> when coupled with search history.

Why is this ok?

Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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Post by nsp »

Androider wrote: post #30

I was just about to select a recruitment management service. Both Lever and Greenhouse has "call us" pricing, and sadly Google Hire follows the same trend. Only Workable has a clear pricing page, which gives them a big plus in my book. Since we're on G Suite, Hire could be a natural fit but the requirement to book a demo (and the accompanying upside-down shaking to see how much money falls out of our pockets) is a bi…

We've tried both greenhouse and lever, using greenhouse now, both were in the $300-$500/mo for the company, no limits on team size or number of job listings as far as I can remember. Honestly I was expecting much more for call us pricing. (We're a 50 person company, were probably ~35 when we started using applicant tracking systems)

Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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Post by pr0ph3t »

lettergram wrote: post #10

I for one, will never use a Google product again. They level of creepiness and data they have on all their users is insane. I personally have switched to DuckDuckGo, Fastmail, FireFox (the mobile browser is awesome btw), and will replace Android as soon as a viable alternative is presented. Smooth sailing. The problem with Google, is they are building a repository for themselves, but also for government. Couple that…

You should read about the founder of DuckDuckGo

Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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Post by endorphone »

A question I've always wondered -- If Google, or an employee at Google, used ML (or just classic techniques) to analyze the enormous, enormous troves of trojan horse data they have on the employees of virtually every organization across the globe, would it be illegal if they traded on that data? They could surely accurately call virtually any trend before anyone. They could see when morale at a firm drops, when hours drop, when employees start trying to get jobs elsewhere, etc. It is simply shocking the amount of data they have coalesced.

And while I generally have a good opinion on them, a product like this just seems like a step too far and risks threatening the trust users have in them.

Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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Post by product50 »

halite wrote: post #26
product50 wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is not for you. This is for your company to use. It's tied to Google Suite.

Why is it useful to a company unless Google provides "value add" features that are better than thousands of other services for hiring.

It is about the integrated experience. Most big companies I know of actually hire recruiting co-ordinators for scheduling and following up with potential candidates as well as with interviewers internally. If Google can use their G-Suite products including Gmail, Calendar, Docs etc. to provide a seamless recruiting experience, I would give it a shot - especially if my company is already on G Suite.

Now that Google has the building blocks for businesses - Gmail, Docs, Calendar, Video Conferencing etc. - it makes sense for them to get into common enterprise services. This ways they can extract more rent and also provide an integrated/more valuable experience to their customers.

Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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Post by skuhn »

Androider wrote: post #30

I was just about to select a recruitment management service. Both Lever and Greenhouse has "call us" pricing, and sadly Google Hire follows the same trend. Only Workable has a clear pricing page, which gives them a big plus in my book. Since we're on G Suite, Hire could be a natural fit but the requirement to book a demo (and the accompanying upside-down shaking to see how much money falls out of our pockets) is a bi…

Stay away from Lever.

It's a slick web application along the lines of the fanciness of Asana's interface.

What it isn't is a sane applicant tracking system. It doesn't reliably notify you when candidates apply. It supports virtually zero job board integrations. It very much wants you to adapt to it, with very little support for the other way around. The interface is over-complicated to the point of being unusable for anyone who isn't committed to spending hours a week in it.

I have never used an ATS that I actually liked, but the failings of Lever make it pretty special in terms of ATS hatred.

It isn't particularly expensive though, despite their opaque pricing. Most ATSes seem to price ~10 open reqs around $300/mo or so. Where the real expense comes in is usually the job board listing fees -- but since Lever barely supports any job boards, you don't have to worry about that!

Re: Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit

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Post by icebraining »

Jonnax wrote: post #27
lettergram wrote: post #10

I for one, will never use a Google product again. They level of creepiness and data they have on all their users is insane. I personally have switched to DuckDuckGo, Fastmail, FireFox (the mobile browser is awesome btw), and will replace Android as soon as a viable alternative is presented. Smooth sailing. The problem with Google, is they are building a repository for themselves, but also for government. Couple that…

It is certainly annoying with how they try and nudge other products away in subtle ways. Like like Firefox on Android, works really well. However on Google's search, they give you a stripped down version of their search results inferior to what Chrome gets. Use an addon like this: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/chrome-ua-on-... And you find out that Firefox has no problem rendering the full featured c…

Curious, I find the left version preferable. More compact, and probably faster to load too.
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