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Re: Archiveteam are backing up SoundCloud

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Post by nextlevelwizard »

LeifCarrotson wrote: post #57
syshum wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And this is how Google Drive Unlimited becomes Google Drive Limited... Like every other Unlimited service, because people like this abuse the shit out of it then when it inevitably dies they run around exclaiming "dont blame me brah they said it was unlimited...., shouldn't have called it unlimited"

> abuse the shit out of it It wouldn't be abuse if it was actually unlimited. They uploaded a finite (if large) amount of data to a service advertising infinite capacity.

You know the saying: "you are not wrong, you are just an asshole".

I don't think OP is arguing that it's against ToS or anything like that. He is arguing that if people just upload stuff in these "unlimited" services all willy nilly soon they won't be unlimited anymore. The price will be the same, but they will drop the capacity to something reasonable. Which in turn might hurt some legitimate users.

I'm all for people backing up anything they feel like is necessary, but they just need to know that if they are going to be uploading Tera or even Peta bytes of data to "unlimited" service without paying much for it they are living on borrowed time.

Re: Archiveteam are backing up SoundCloud

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Post by dmacedo »

imartin2k wrote: post #10

I hadn't heard of Archiveteam before, but the fact that HN brings their site down doesn't make me too confident in their backing up skills :)

You're thinking scalability. What they do is reliability in archives, and "team work" (it's in the name) for retrieval. Cheers

Re: Archiveteam are backing up SoundCloud

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Post by apetresc »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #67
milankragujevic wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, except people on DataHoarder encrypt their files so that the providers can't store one copy per unique file but have to store one copy per one file in any user's account.

Is there a valid reason for this aside from making sure if they delete it once, they don't delete it everywhere? Now I see the true issue against datahoarders... Wasting more space than needed to account for a situation that their own actions kinda put them under...

I'll go ahead and state the obvious – it's because the vast majority of the files /r/Datahoarders is hoarding is illegal material that they don't want to get ToS'ed for.

Re: Archiveteam are backing up SoundCloud

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Post by [deleted] »

nextlevelwizard wrote: post #76
philfrasty wrote: post #48

Just from a legal standpoint: isn't „...considers the SoundCloud service in danger...“ slander? Especially since the Internet Archive isn't a nobody (with maybe some inside information?). Just remembered cases like Deutsche Bank vs Leo Kirch which are legal nightmares.

Good luck suing not for profit volunteer group when you yourself are in financial trouble to begin with. I'm not saying it's impossible, but there's not much to gain.

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Re: Archiveteam are backing up SoundCloud

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Post by dexterdog »

rnhmjoj wrote: post #70
syshum wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And this is how Google Drive Unlimited becomes Google Drive Limited... Like every other Unlimited service, because people like this abuse the shit out of it then when it inevitably dies they run around exclaiming "dont blame me brah they said it was unlimited...., shouldn't have called it unlimited"

Well, companies should think twice before selling unlimited plans. Maybe set a really high cap that's enough to cover 90% of the users but unlimited means unlimited.

90% would likely be covered by a TB or 2. That would not work for marketing.

Re: Archiveteam are backing up SoundCloud

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Post by imartin2k »

dmacedo wrote: post #82
imartin2k wrote: post #10

I hadn't heard of Archiveteam before, but the fact that HN brings their site down doesn't make me too confident in their backing up skills :)

You're thinking scalability. What they do is reliability in archives, and "team work" (it's in the name) for retrieval. Cheers

Mostly, I saw the humourous in it, which I tried to emphasize with the smilie. Didn't land.

Re: Archiveteam are backing up SoundCloud

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Post by dmacedo »

imartin2k wrote: post #87
dmacedo wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're thinking scalability. What they do is reliability in archives, and "team work" (it's in the name) for retrieval. Cheers

Mostly, I saw the humourous in it, which I tried to emphasize with the smilie. Didn't land.

Ah, yes, another good example of Poe's law! :)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law

Re: Archiveteam are backing up SoundCloud

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Post by sk0g »

icebraining wrote: post #40
sk0g wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe they're only pulling either indie stuff with no copyright, or the rarer stuff that they're less likely to get in trouble over.

indie stuff with no copyright There's no such thing, copyright is automatic, it applies as soon as the author puts the work in some tangible medium (like an hard drive).

Huh, didn't know that!

So if I record and master a random riff, I technically have a copyright on it?

To be fair, I was mostly talking about ones with a record label, where you might be hounded by a label with a lot of legal representation.

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