It's a lie like so much other stuff in the press. I'm currently in Turkey/Antalya, I've a cell-phone with a turkish Vodafone SIM card - I had several phone calls today - no president in my phone.
Turkish GSM networks currently play a message of the President on any phone call
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Re: Turkish GSM networks currently play a message of the President on any phone call
#162Dexter Palmer's 2016 novel Version Control had imagined something rather like this in a near-future United States, where phone calls and video screens would occasionally be interrupted by a message from the president.
I had thought it was inventive and evocative, but sort of unrealistic.
I was wrong. Yikes.
Re: Turkish GSM networks currently play a message of the President on any phone call
#163It's a lie like so much other stuff in the press. I'm currently in Turkey/Antalya, I've a cell-phone with a turkish Vodafone SIM card - I had several phone calls today - no president in my phone.
I haven't heard anything neither, although I tried hard to call everyone. Maybe some portion of prepaid tariff sim cards could be having it as they had some other types of ads in the past. Maybe you're right, could equally be "fake news".
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#164I wonder how would things have been if Turket had been accepted to EU 10 years ago. Would it have helped?
Turkey has been powerful when it had the "Islamic World" under its stewardship. Being EU member would have improved the hand of "Secularists" for few years or so. Given the unraveling of EU experiment it would have at best delayed certain things, sooner or later in a generation the Turkey will look more like the Ottoman era both in its power and projection than it was for much of 20th century. So broadly speaking, NO…
Is no one else getting really fed up with this discriminatory dimming feature on HN? It's basically "Many of us don't like what you're saying (OK) and will therefore make it difficult for those with poor sight to read it (not OK)". What is it but weak censorship? What about an alternative?
Re: Turkish GSM networks currently play a message of the President on any phone call
#165"As president, I send congratulations on the July 15 National Day of Democracy and Unity and wish the martyrs mercy and the heroes (of the defeat of the coup) health and wellbeing," Source: https://au.news.yahoo.com/world/a/36394050/mr-president-erdo...
Actually I m glad I don't make too many phone calls, (who's using their smartphones for making calls) but this type of "call injection" may annoy similar to Ads-gone-insane recently on the web. That happens because after the Gulen Islamists' coup d'Etat faction killed around 250 civilians and wounded 2500 civilians( mostly ) last year during the coup attempt - the voters for the main party feel too emotional during t…
Clearly you miss the point of the outrage over this.
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#166Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, I've noticed the injected video my ISP, Turkcell Superonline. Only works with sites with no HTTPS/HTTP->HTTPS redirection since they can't proxy sites with SSL. Interestingly, I don't get the Erdogan's message on my cell. My friends tried calling me last night to hear the message, they don't hear it when they call me either. Could be related to me using my networks -paid- call ring tone customising app.
Back in 2013 the Turkish CA (TURKTRUST) enabled phishers to spoof Google. Given the current situation, finding someone who tries to mess up the certificates should not be a surprise. > https://security.googleblog.com/2013/01/enhancing-digital-ce... > https://www.wired.com/2013/01/google-fraudulent-certificate/
Nobody would burn a CA just so they can inject some ads into Google. They'll be able to do it for 24hrs max before somebody notices (less if it's a google site, because chrome reports rogue certificates to google)
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#167Earlier quoted context omitted.
As someone outside of Turkish politics: how is it even possible to be liberal and pro-erdogan? I can see why someone might like the guy or think he's somehow good for the country, but it seems, to an outsider, that he's 100% incompatible with liberal values.
Erdogan came to power thanks to the support of the liberals. He had their support because before Erdogan Turkey wasn't a liberal democracy and Erdogan actually had very progressive agenda compared to the hard core secularist establishment. That's how he had the support of the EU and USA liberals too. Turkey before Erdogan wasn't much different than today but with much less islamic sauce in the politics.
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Re: Turkish GSM networks currently play a message of the President on any phone call
#168It's a lie like so much other stuff in the press. I'm currently in Turkey/Antalya, I've a cell-phone with a turkish Vodafone SIM card - I had several phone calls today - no president in my phone.
I haven't heard anything neither, although I tried hard to call everyone. Maybe some portion of prepaid tariff sim cards could be having it as they had some other types of ads in the past. Maybe you're right, could equally be "fake news".
Definitely not "Fake News". TRT(Turkish equivalent of BBC) reported that the stunt was organised by the BTK(Information Technologies Committee, govt. body): http://www.trthaber.com/haber/gundem/gsm-operatorlerinin-abo...
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#169Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Weird, kinda like the US. Which part of aytekin ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14780685 ) 's message reminds you of the US? Whatever else one may say of the current state of US politics, this: > the other half of the population took over the country and started applying middle eastern and Islamic ideals instead. … the islamists see west as evil. doesn't sound like it. (To be fair, I didn't quote: > They bel…
Which part of aytekin's message reminds you of the US? For me, it was the notion of those in villages / rural areas having increasing interest in power, as they feel increasingly abandoned & their values ignored. It reminded me of the US Midwest becoming more interested in politics, leading to Trump's win over Clinton: “You saw turnout spike in more rural counties,” Alexander said. “If you take a look at a lot of the…
Rise of the Rednecks
Re: Turkish GSM networks currently play a message of the President on any phone call
#170Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, I've noticed the injected video my ISP, Turkcell Superonline. Only works with sites with no HTTPS/HTTP->HTTPS redirection since they can't proxy sites with SSL. Interestingly, I don't get the Erdogan's message on my cell. My friends tried calling me last night to hear the message, they don't hear it when they call me either. Could be related to me using my networks -paid- call ring tone customising app.
Back in 2013 the Turkish CA (TURKTRUST) enabled phishers to spoof Google. Given the current situation, finding someone who tries to mess up the certificates should not be a surprise. > https://security.googleblog.com/2013/01/enhancing-digital-ce... > https://www.wired.com/2013/01/google-fraudulent-certificate/
Some time ago Wikipedia has been banned in Turkey because the government didn't like a couple of pages about its involvement in the Syria civil war. (I don't have references handy but you can find easily with Google)
In the past couple of weeks I noticed the a number of ISPs (for sure Turkcell for mobile and Türk Telekom for land lines) started injecting a wrong certificate, I guess to MITM the communication.
The certificate is of course wrong (it is both untrusted and the domain name is wrong) so the browser will notice this and block the access, but I'm surprised that I haven't seen any discussion about this online