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Turkish GSM networks currently play a message of the President on any phone call

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Re: Turkish GSM networks currently play a message of the President on any phone call

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Post by JadeNB »

acjohnson55 wrote: post #81
aytekin wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here is why: Half of the population wants to be part of the Western world. They believe in secularity and many other Western ideals. That's how Turkey became a close ally to US, part of NATO and almost became part of EU. Because this half had the control and the other half previously mostly lived in villages and wasn't interested in power. Then, as they moved to cities and as they became influential, the other half o…

Weird, kinda like the US.

> Weird, kinda like the US.

Which part of aytekin (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14780685) 's message reminds you of the US? Whatever else one may say of the current state of US politics, this:

> the other half of the population took over the country and started applying middle eastern and Islamic ideals instead. … the islamists see west as evil.

doesn't sound like it. (To be fair, I didn't quote:

> They believe in secularity and many other Western ideals.

and

> they have so much ambition and hatred in them.

(different 'they'), which maybe fit some groups, according to your leanings.)

Re: Turkish GSM networks currently play a message of the President on any phone call

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Post by justinjlynn »

chillydawg wrote: post #88
qq66 wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ouch. It's terrible when guys like this find guys like you to work for them :)

But someone else would have done it anyway.

Ah, but you see, you were the one who actually did do it.

Re: Turkish GSM networks currently play a message of the President on any phone call

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Post by mrtksn »

gonvaled wrote: post #65
petre wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They didn't because most of the UK public supports UK being a monarchy so if anyone made such a proposition it would probably be highly unpopular. But they did vote to leave the EU for not having it their way. This decision has always been more popular, since about 60% of the UK public voted to join the EC, not the EU.

Why is having a monarchy that nobody voted to get rid of more democratic than having a president people voted for? Why is your elected president hijacking the telephone network worse than your unelected queen hijacking your tv network?

Think of it as if the Queen speech was about the excellent job the British people did on the Brexit referendum, defeating the traitors.

Currently, a little bit more of the half of the population supports Erdogan and the other half hates him. Though admittedly the anti-Erdigan half did not support the coup as it is believed to be orchestrated by another islamist, but still...

Re: Turkish GSM networks currently play a message of the President on any phone call

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Post by lostlogin »

plafl wrote: post #25
OzzyB wrote: post #22

I don't understand what the problem is. How is this any different from the Queen of England taking over the entire UK airwaves for a half-hour speech on Christmas Day? /s

Phone seems much more intrusive to me since it's a quite personal and private channel of communication as opossed to TV, or it should be at least.

Playing devils advocate here as I agree with you, phone call intrusion is worse. TV in the U.K. has to be paid for (with money that has her face on it) and the queens communications are pro-establishment, so it has a little of the creep factor.

Re: Turkish GSM networks currently play a message of the President on any phone call

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Post by lostlogin »

ant6n wrote: post #56
greglindahl wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes. The UK could vote to abolish the monarchy, but they haven't. In a typical democracy, you are subject to laws that you didn't vote for or "agree to". A modern constitutional monarchy is a structure agreed to by the people.

You can't become a citizen of Canada, a country that calls itself democratic, without swearing allegiance to the queen.

The majority of Canadians became Canadian by being born there. Pretty sure the swearing wasn't coming from the new citizen.

Re: Turkish GSM networks currently play a message of the President on any phone call

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Post by mrkgnao »

AlphaWeaver wrote: post #60
xepbam57 wrote: post #50

Have anybody thought why you hear the sound(beeeep-beeeeep-....) when you make a call and from where it comes? Yes, telco can put anything there. Even more, I wounder why we do not hear some commercial Ad's every time we call. This would be in a spirit of current times...

Indeed! Verizon, a carrier in the US, actually made a product out of this by allowing people to buy what they branded "Ringback Tones" which would play some song or tune when someone called your number and you hadn't picked up yet. Not sure if it's still a thing.

They're called "caller tunes" in India. Used to be really popular a few years ago. Now they're a bit less common.

Re: Turkish GSM networks currently play a message of the President on any phone call

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Post by matt4077 »

noncoml wrote: post #45

I wonder how would things have been if Turket had been accepted to EU 10 years ago. Would it have helped?

Yes, almost certainly. They wouldn't have had to become a member back then. All that was needed was a realistic path to membership.

Instead, some influential EU leaders basically said "It's never going to happen", sometimes under pressure from their countries' right wing. Not because Turkey was economically too far behind, or because of concerns with the rule of law, but simply because a sizeable portion of EU populations objected to non-christians becoming part of the EU.

Nobody knows what could have been, and the current situation shows that turkish democracy was rather weak all along. But it's important to remember that Erdogan started out as a moderate, who sought nothing more than approval from the EU, and only turned to the dark side after repeatedly being humiliated. It's possibly one of largest mistakes made in recent history.

Re: Turkish GSM networks currently play a message of the President on any phone call

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Post by throwaway76493 »

There is something equally insane happening on the Turkish internets right now.

At least two major mobile operators / ISPs are injecting JS into web traffic to display pop-up ads / Youtube videos on the lower right corner of every web page. The videos "commemorate" last year's events on July 15 in a language that is, to put it mildly, thorougly in line with Erdogan's ideology, and make a point of offering free data and phone credits throughout the 3-day commemorations being held.

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