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Indian IT, “You're Fired”

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Re: Indian IT, “You're Fired”

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Post by smithsmith »

mabbo wrote: post #15

I've never understood the ways that modern companies handle layoffs- call people into a meeting room one by one, tell them they're being let go, then escort them out of the building. It's not just that it's cold, but it builds a huge cloud of oppression for everyone else. I just watched this happen to a friend, and the guy who was sitting next to him is now saying "I could be next, better start talking to recruiters"…

The best way is for the company to tell in a few lines that this is all they can do due to market pressure and any possible helps they can offer over mail. Its pointless to call in to a room and deliver through hr which creates unease to both humans.

Re: Indian IT, “You're Fired”

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Post by camiller »

eecc wrote: post #156
camiller wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most US businesses prohibit employees from bringing firearms to work, usually when there is an office shooting the fired employee has returned, often days later, for his revenge. Really does not impact the day of dismissal. Edit: ...and does not happen often.

I'm no expert, but I understand you have government licenses to carry (even concealed) so how can a private entity interfere with those? Anyhow whatever...

Laws vary from state to state, and sometimes even between jurisdictions within a state. In Nebraska for example, yes I can get the permit, but the law governing that permit says that any private property owner may prohibit persons from carrying on their property by simply posting this sign: https://statepatrol.nebraska.gov/vimages/shared/vnews/storie... . If I want to be a law abiding gun owner I have to respect that (despite the fact that it is silly), otherwise I could have the permit revoked, and possibly face other legal repercussions.

Re: Indian IT, “You're Fired”

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Post by DrScump »

zmakr wrote: post #75
donquichotte wrote: post #59

"Indian software services companies are under tremendous pressure to continue to show growth in a slowing global market that is also experiencing increased protectionism in the west." Maybe the managers in the west who made the decision to lay off entire IT departments and replace them by Indian companies started realizing that with the cost of the impedance mismatch in language and culture between a company and its…

Its not the managers who made the decision. Its the shareholders, ultimately its capitalism that made this decision.

Shareholders, individually or collectively, don't make such decisions... but they later collectively judge those who did. (Fairly or unfairly)

Re: Indian IT, “You're Fired”

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Post by borplk »

JustSomeNobody wrote: post #64
mabbo wrote: post #15

I've never understood the ways that modern companies handle layoffs- call people into a meeting room one by one, tell them they're being let go, then escort them out of the building. It's not just that it's cold, but it builds a huge cloud of oppression for everyone else. I just watched this happen to a friend, and the guy who was sitting next to him is now saying "I could be next, better start talking to recruiters"…

Last layoff I saw happen (I survived), they emailed the people being layed off and told them to meet in a conference room. So as all of them got up, they noticed the rest of us staying. We all instantly knew. 15 minutes later, they all come walking back to get their personal items with armed security guards patrolling (maybe a dozen). I started looking for my next job that day. I don't want to work for a company that…

It's the ugly truth about the relationship with an employer. Some just manage to hide it better.

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Post by jbergens »

mawburn wrote: post #165
bboreham wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anecdote: I had to terminate a contractor; he said "ok, I understand, can I just send a quick email to say goodbye?", so I let him walk back to his desk where he typed for a minute. Few minutes later we realised he had run "rm -rf" on the central source code repository. Restored from backup in a couple of hours, but I'll never repeat that experiment.

Might be an ancedote, but this is exactly why people are escorted out of the building. As much as it sucks, I understand why it's a necessary evil.

It is not necessary, it rarely happens like that in the nordic countries.
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