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Welcoming Tech Talent from Around the World to France

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Re: Welcoming Tech Talent from Around the World to France

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Post by geomark »

kabdib wrote: post #84
pjmlp wrote: post #20

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As it should be. We don't have people calling themselves engineers just because can type a few lines of code.

I don't have a degree (just 35 years of experience shipping products at companies you have definitely heard of). Some of the best engineers I've worked with haven't had degrees. One guy I know (who will never have to work again) didn't even bother to graduate from high school. A few of them have written papers published in academic journals. There is definitely more than "a few lines of code" involved in their career…

I always feel like the guy in this meme when someone suggests I should interview for some hot new opportunity http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/i-know-mor...

Re: Welcoming Tech Talent from Around the World to France

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Post by apatters »

ptero wrote: post #102
wanghq wrote: post #85

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Sounds like there are lots of opportunities...for startups, to improve these areas.

Startups do well when they improve things for people who vote with their wallets (buying this or that service). Bureaucracies though are a completely different beast. Better value? Happier customers? They care not a bit. You need different levers to (sloooowly) move them.

What are those levers? Are you aware of any examples where an effort to move them was successful?

Re: Welcoming Tech Talent from Around the World to France

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Post by zaatar »

computereye wrote: post #153
raitom wrote: post #75

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I'm French and I moved to San Diego, so.... My health insurance is paid by my company and I don't really care about free education. Yet, after all my bills, groceries for the month and rent (which is around $2k/month) is paid, I still have almost $2k / month in my pocket to do whatever I want. Good luck to have that in France. The quality of life in Southern California is miles ahead from what I could have in France.…

I'm French and I'm curious as to how you moved and got a job in SD ? Thanks

SD is "South Dakota" as abbreviated in US-English. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Dakota

Re: Welcoming Tech Talent from Around the World to France

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Post by Hasknewbie »

cmahler7 wrote: post #93
anonyfox wrote: post #15

At this point it seems that many Europe nations are more "free" than the US. Now with same-sex marriage getting legal in germany the probably last big issue is resolved. You will not get extreme high salaries like in the US, but there is stuff like free higher education and getting serious medical care won't be expensive at all. Also remember that the EU has a higher population than the US with very diverse countries…

Germany is currently raiding people's homes for posting anything they deem "hate speech" online. Facebook can be fined 50 million now for not removing what the German government deems hate speech. No WrongThink allowed in Germany. That isn't "freedom" in my mind and I think any member of HN should be horrified at the precedent being set for the future. What happens when someone who comes into power determines "hate s…

The tone of your post indicates you have no idea what you are talking about. In Europe hate speech laws are a thing, essentially it is considered a form of libel and/or intimidation. It exists across most of Europe, and has existed for decades.

You may agree or disagree with that kind of (again, fairly common) legal framework, but this has nothing to do specifically with Germany or with 2017. The only news in this article is that until now typically they would act on social media only following complaint, whereas now they are acting as if it were traditional media (i.e. acting once it is published).

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Post by madaxe_again »

cakedoggie wrote: post #119
wavefunction wrote: post #90

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W the bank thing, I had to do that with Wells Fargo when I moved from Colorado to Texas in 2009.

Sure, but the French example is moving suburbs in a city. The could have moved less than a few km and had a problem.

A département is not a suburb within a city - it's a large region of France, equivalent to a county in the UK, except with a totally different administrative setup.

Re: Welcoming Tech Talent from Around the World to France

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Post by jjeaff »

SamReidHughes wrote: post #26
pjmlp wrote: post #20

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As it should be. We don't have people calling themselves engineers just because can type a few lines of code.

Lol. Having a master's is negatively correlated with developer quality in many people's experience.

I know it's not always accurate. But when I am looking at a resume of someone who has a master's in CS, I think either programming was an afterthought for them or, if they had been learning to code all this time, why didn't they go out and get a job long before they had time to finish a masters?

Re: Welcoming Tech Talent from Around the World to France

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Post by cm2187 »

GuiA wrote: post #117
rorykoehler wrote: post #115

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On top of this Macron wants to ban encryption (just like May in the UK). It all sounds like lip service and bluster from here.

He has. That being said, he has nominated some semi competent people for tech related things (eg Mounor Mahjoubi as ministre du numérique) so hopefully that was all campaign talk and won't actually get implemented. Fingers crossed.

The first decision he took as a president is to renew the Etat d'Urgence (which suspends many civil liberties) while having campaigned against the "Etat d'Urgence permanent", which probably doesn't require a translation.

So there is indeed hope that he won't follow his campaign line to the letter.

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