At this point it seems that many Europe nations are more "free" than the US. Now with same-sex marriage getting legal in germany the probably last big issue is resolved. You will not get extreme high salaries like in the US, but there is stuff like free higher education and getting serious medical care won't be expensive at all. Also remember that the EU has a higher population than the US with very diverse countries…
I find European culture and history alluring, but I don't think Europe is somehow "more free" than the U.S., in particular, you guys have much more regulation and far greater taxes. Maybe you have a greater quality of life by certain measures, but I think the freedom point is hard to defend. Maybe I'm wrong?
Welcoming Tech Talent from Around the World to France
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Uh, what? Have you been to the United States before? Everything, and I mean everything is incredibly cheap here. I'm just like an average dev in flyover country and I max out my retirement savings, bought a house, and can go buy a BMW and fill it up with <$2.00/gal gasoline, oh and that's just on my income. Doesn't include spouse. And after I fill up with gas I can go to an average grocery store that is far larger th…
"I can go to an average grocery store that is far larger than just about anything I've seen in all my European travels" How is this relevant?
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Sure, but it's not just that. The quality of life could be argued to be significantly higher than in other places. The job security once you land a decent gig is not something to be discarded. This being said, Macron does plan on making it easier for people to be fired, in order to make it easier for companies to hire. This is a big topic that I could rant for hours about. You do get all-inclusive health care. In add…
Every year I work in the US I save enough to take 1.5 years off work. France is a beautiful place. Can I earn (in year equivalents) a similar or better amount as a senior developer?
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No, around 40k€ / year, before taxes.
Sure, but it's not just that. The quality of life could be argued to be significantly higher than in other places. The job security once you land a decent gig is not something to be discarded. This being said, Macron does plan on making it easier for people to be fired, in order to make it easier for companies to hire. This is a big topic that I could rant for hours about. You do get all-inclusive health care. In add…
The thing is that most young people without connections are not employed in "CDI" anymore. 80% of recruitments are done in "CDD", which becomes the norm.
An what means "job security"? if your company wants to fire you it can easily, it just has to do it a decent way.
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#145Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sure, but it's not just that. The quality of life could be argued to be significantly higher than in other places. The job security once you land a decent gig is not something to be discarded. This being said, Macron does plan on making it easier for people to be fired, in order to make it easier for companies to hire. This is a big topic that I could rant for hours about. You do get all-inclusive health care. In add…
I'm French and I moved to San Diego, so.... My health insurance is paid by my company and I don't really care about free education. Yet, after all my bills, groceries for the month and rent (which is around $2k/month) is paid, I still have almost $2k / month in my pocket to do whatever I want. Good luck to have that in France. The quality of life in Southern California is miles ahead from what I could have in France.…
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#146Just a friendly reminder: as of today there has been a state of emergency in France for over a year now. We are talking about situation with regular army with full automatic assault weapons on the streets and police authorized to enter apartments without court order.
I'm Canadian and have a 15 month old, so I'm not as up on European news as I should be. Does that state of emergency stem from the Paris attacks in 2015?
I don't live in Paris but overall this doesn't change daily life by much. You basically only see a couple police officers in front of police stations and a couple guards in front of universities.
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#147Wow you have to have a graduate degree to even be an eligible employee, never mind.
>Wow you have to have a graduate degree to even be an eligible employee, never mind. And yet, if you're a Near-Eastern economic migrant with no French and a 2000 word vocabulary in your native tongue ...welcome aboard.
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#149Just a friendly reminder: as of today there has been a state of emergency in France for over a year now. We are talking about situation with regular army with full automatic assault weapons on the streets and police authorized to enter apartments without court order.
Some would argue Hollande used this to allow France ignore the EU mandated deficit target, because the country is somehow "at war".
http://ec.europa.eu/europe2020/making-it-happen/country-spec...