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Re: Welcoming Tech Talent from Around the World to France

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand this kind of negativity and frankly, this is an incredibly weak comment because of it.

So negative comments are weak comments? If you like your information sugar coated that's fine but I prefer my discussion open and honest after all.

I'm highly critical of france but your comment comes out agressive and have zero informations in it.

Re: Welcoming Tech Talent from Around the World to France

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For those who are seriously considering moving to a European nation for work purposes, you might want to also look up the EU blue card scheme[1] which is most likely more flexible than this for employees (no idea of equivalent for founders and investors). [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Card_(European_Union)

Edit - it turns out that the link I put here is actually for a private company. I haven't had any luck finding a more official link for information. If you can help, I'll update this.

Note that this is (one of many) websites made by private companies that try to appear as official as they can without being (and collect some "fees" on the way). I would be extremely surprised if there were actual employers on that site or if they would actually provide a useful service regarding the real application.

Re: Welcoming Tech Talent from Around the World to France

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Yeah flee from the right-wing nightmare that is the U.S. right now to join a nation with the exact same problems and that speaks a different language after all (oh and it is france, they'll let you know that you are american scum to them) This pathetic try to cash in on the whole Trump situation is disgusting. If you want to to relocate to Europe try Berlin or Stockholm.

I have many pleasant memories of living in France many years ago: great food, strong respect for ideas, great ambiance. And, no, I did not speak French and never encountered any bias from the Parisians, despite my California way of speaking. Berlin and Stockholm sound good too, have never been. But I would respond first to the nation that is proactively reaching out. I don't view it as "cashing in on the Trump situat…

You won't really find a nation right now that is anti-science. If France would care about science it would try to fix their school system to produce more scientist. But instead they prefer to lure people in their mess of a nation.

Re: Welcoming Tech Talent from Around the World to France

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Yeah flee from the right-wing nightmare that is the U.S. right now to join a nation with the exact same problems and that speaks a different language after all (oh and it is france, they'll let you know that you are american scum to them) This pathetic try to cash in on the whole Trump situation is disgusting. If you want to to relocate to Europe try Berlin or Stockholm.

A moron as the chief leader of the country is not something that France shares with the US. In addition, I don't see a huge number of elected representatives of France colluding with one of their chief enemies. France has it's issues; however, their leadership is significantly better than the US, at the moment.

Macron basically just re-branded the socialist party, which wasn't exactly popular. And while his optics may be better than Le Pen, Trump or whoever, France still has deep economic and social problems, and a continuation of the status quo is unlikely to change that.

Re: Welcoming Tech Talent from Around the World to France

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At this point it seems that many Europe nations are more "free" than the US. Now with same-sex marriage getting legal in germany the probably last big issue is resolved. You will not get extreme high salaries like in the US, but there is stuff like free higher education and getting serious medical care won't be expensive at all. Also remember that the EU has a higher population than the US with very diverse countries…

They might get higher numbers, but they are paid in Dollar which is less worth than Euro, also everything is more expensive there than it is here, especially rent and food.

Re: Welcoming Tech Talent from Around the World to France

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It looks great on paper but the devil will be in the detail and how well they execute on the admin/bureaucracy side.

If my experience a few years ago with the auto entrepreneur scheme and URSAFF are anything to go by, you'll need a lot of patience, the ability to speak half decent French and a sense of humour if you want to avoid ripping all your hair out :)

I love France (have even married one of their citizens!) but this is a country where in 2013 we moved from one department to another and had to close our bank accounts with the branches in the first department and open new ones in the second department because there was no way to migrate accounts between branches of the same bank o_O We literally had to post cheques to a friend in the old department so he could deposit them while we waited for the old accounts to be closed and new ones opened (complete with different cards, chequebooks, account numbers - the works).

Why did we need to migrate accounts? Because you could only deposit cheques in the same department as your local branch. Why were we depositing cheques?! Because half of France (including my fiancées' employer at the time) still uses them for everything (which is also great fun if you're in a rush in Super-U and the person in front decides to pay with one).

Having said all of that, France is awesome despite its flaws and there are lots of reasons to be hopeful with Macron now piloting the ship.

Re: Welcoming Tech Talent from Around the World to France

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Just a friendly reminder: as of today there has been a state of emergency in France for over a year now. We are talking about situation with regular army with full automatic assault weapons on the streets and police authorized to enter apartments without court order.

Had to work in England in the 90's for a week and the bus on the route I used was blown up two hours after I got off by the IRA. All the London landmarks were patrolled by army soldiers with rifles. Everyone can get used to almost any circumstance, the odds of being a victim of a terror attack are miniscule. I'm much more likely to get hit by a drunk driver in the USA.

I refuse to accept the "you are more likely to die in a road accident" argument. Simply refuse. Ironically the terrorist attack in Berlin last December was initially categorized as a road accident.

Re: Welcoming Tech Talent from Around the World to France

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At this point it seems that many Europe nations are more "free" than the US. Now with same-sex marriage getting legal in germany the probably last big issue is resolved. You will not get extreme high salaries like in the US, but there is stuff like free higher education and getting serious medical care won't be expensive at all. Also remember that the EU has a higher population than the US with very diverse countries…

I find European culture and history alluring, but I don't think Europe is somehow "more free" than the U.S., in particular, you guys have much more regulation and far greater taxes. Maybe you have a greater quality of life by certain measures, but I think the freedom point is hard to defend. Maybe I'm wrong?

Re: Welcoming Tech Talent from Around the World to France

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post #31

Just a friendly reminder: as of today there has been a state of emergency in France for over a year now. We are talking about situation with regular army with full automatic assault weapons on the streets and police authorized to enter apartments without court order.

I'm Canadian and have a 15 month old, so I'm not as up on European news as I should be. Does that state of emergency stem from the Paris attacks in 2015?

Yes, that's right.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/States_of_emergency_in_France#...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/November_2015_Paris_attacks#St...

Re: Welcoming Tech Talent from Around the World to France

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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, around 40k€ / year, before taxes.

You cannot directly compare a San Francisco salary to a French/Western European salary. Healthcare, benefits, rent, etc. are completely different.

Better explain them beforehand otherwise it's not gonna fly. Even with Trump as a strawman
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