Just a friendly reminder: as of today there has been a state of emergency in France for over a year now. We are talking about situation with regular army with full automatic assault weapons on the streets and police authorized to enter apartments without court order.
Welcoming Tech Talent from Around the World to France
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#32Yeah flee from the right-wing nightmare that is the U.S. right now to join a nation with the exact same problems and that speaks a different language after all (oh and it is france, they'll let you know that you are american scum to them) This pathetic try to cash in on the whole Trump situation is disgusting. If you want to to relocate to Europe try Berlin or Stockholm.
I don't understand this kind of negativity and frankly, this is an incredibly weak comment because of it.
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#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
No, around 40k€ / year, before taxes.
Sure, but it's not just that. The quality of life could be argued to be significantly higher than in other places. The job security once you land a decent gig is not something to be discarded. This being said, Macron does plan on making it easier for people to be fired, in order to make it easier for companies to hire. This is a big topic that I could rant for hours about. You do get all-inclusive health care. In add…
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#34There has been a very strong dynamic over the past few years around France’s 10,000 startups. Any info on the success rate?
Projects here are usually quite classical. Investors are shy with money. People from both sides reject risks, and hence the chance of a big success. They want the unicorns for cheap, without having to go find it in the forest and care for it.
The administrative burden, the taxes and the terrible situation with hiring give the last blow.
France is a terrible place for start ups. We got some. But given the great talent pool we have, I find the quantity and quality pitiful. We have good people here, smart ones, efficient ones, nice onces. And we waste so many opportunities.
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#35Yeah flee from the right-wing nightmare that is the U.S. right now to join a nation with the exact same problems and that speaks a different language after all (oh and it is france, they'll let you know that you are american scum to them) This pathetic try to cash in on the whole Trump situation is disgusting. If you want to to relocate to Europe try Berlin or Stockholm.
I'm considering fleeing to someplace where I am assured health care. If I continue to work solo, I don't need to worry about hours caps and all the rest. Hell, maybe I'll be able to relax and "have a life", for a change.
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#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
No, around 40k€ / year, before taxes.
You cannot directly compare a San Francisco salary to a French/Western European salary. Healthcare, benefits, rent, etc. are completely different.
Btw, rent in London is about the same as SF or slightly higher. So even with benefits included it's a worse deal.
I don't know what the situation with renting is like in Paris but given how low salaries are rent would have to be much lower compared to London in order for it to make sense to work there instead.
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#37Yeah flee from the right-wing nightmare that is the U.S. right now to join a nation with the exact same problems and that speaks a different language after all (oh and it is france, they'll let you know that you are american scum to them) This pathetic try to cash in on the whole Trump situation is disgusting. If you want to to relocate to Europe try Berlin or Stockholm.
Umm, I think it is not aimed at only people from the US who want to migrate but also to potential talent who were considering the US as an option for investment or as the next step in their careers. Yeah there is a big PR spin to the whole thing but can you really fault the French for using the same approach the US did? Isn't that what the US did all those years when it sold the idea of the American Dream, which in r…
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#38Will they pay as good as the Us? That is going to be the biggest motivator in my opinion.
No, around 40k€ / year, before taxes.
This isn't going to draw very many Silicon Valley engineers to France, but it could bring some people to France who failed to get an H1B.
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#39Wow you have to have a graduate degree to even be an eligible employee, never mind.
As it should be. We don't have people calling themselves engineers just because can type a few lines of code.
I do a lot of hiring and, in my experience, having a degree (or indeed the class/score of said degree) has no relation to the real-world abilities of candidates.