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More Millennials Are Having Strokes

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Re: More Millennials Are Having Strokes

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This is surprising to me, as in India a large part of the population is vegetarian. We don't seem to be susceptible to the same problems. The move away from Milk products & Eggs seems to open a huge nutrient gap that the vegan population hasn't adequately identified how to fill.

Vegan is a lot more restrictive than vegetarian though- I know many Indians who are vegetarians, but I don't think any of them are vegans.

I'd assume Jains have to be.

Re: More Millennials Are Having Strokes

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This is surprising to me, as in India a large part of the population is vegetarian. We don't seem to be susceptible to the same problems. The move away from Milk products & Eggs seems to open a huge nutrient gap that the vegan population hasn't adequately identified how to fill.

How do people with Lactose intolerance get their nutrients then?

Probably meat

Re: More Millennials Are Having Strokes

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Iron deficiency anemia (IDA) has been associated with strokes in young people. IDA doesn't necessarily have pronounced symptoms and a diagnosis with a blood sample is simple and cheap. It is often considered a "female disorder" but it's only slightly more common in females than males. tldr: Have your blood checked. [1] https://www.hindawi.com/journals/crinm/2012/487080/ EDIT: As most follow up comments seem to center…

Curious, I remember a study a few years ago suggesting a lot of makes in western countries had excessive iron as a result of eating lots of meat and not bleeding.

Re: More Millennials Are Having Strokes

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Some vegetarians in developing countries do not have a B12 problem (which also causes anemia) because their food and water are more dirty, and there (B12) bacteria producing. For those vegans at least, their best bet is to accidentally eat enough food contaminated with bacteria or feces to consume decent quantities of B12. Source: The Dietitian's Guide to Vegetarian Diets, 3rd edition, 2011. See page 192. https://boo…

This comment was both disgusting and enlightening. Wow, who would have thought some people derive nutritional value from feces-laden water?!

I feel like I have come across similar concepts. There is a theory for instance that developing countries get fewer auto-immune diseases because they are exposed to more germs.

Re: More Millennials Are Having Strokes

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Yes. We need to stop subsidizing and normalizing obesity.

Honestly, I think the opioid epidemic is really what is driving this more. Unfortunately the article doesn't bring it up. Though I do agree with you in general that we need a fundamental cultural change or we are going to see the average life expectancy. Every morbidly obese child you see has s good chance of not living past 50-60, and their adulthood is going to be marked by early disability.

In fairness the article actually does bring up the drug angle twice, but in passing.

>in our data we saw this [youthful stroke] increase independently of that,” says Brett Kissela, professor and chair of the Department of Neurology and Rehabilitation Medicine at the University of Cincinnati, who headed the 2012 work. It is likely drug use among the younger adult population also plays a role, he says

>Ralph Sacco, president of the American Academy of Neurology, notes that “data has been scant” about strokes among younger people. “There has been mounting evidence from different studies suggesting that even though the incidence and mortality of stroke is on the decline, the rates may not be dropping quite as much—and even [may be] increasing—among younger populations,” Sacco says. “The reasons for these trends are not entirely clear but there are concerns about obesity, diabetes and physical inactivity having a greater impact in younger stroke victims.” Drug use may be another factor, he adds.

Re: More Millennials Are Having Strokes

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It's mostly obesity. If we allowed for obesity as a reason to deny health coverage, then health innsurance would be affordable. And since it costs nothing to lose weight, it seems fair.

You assume some factor results in obesity, which the causes strokes. There is no evidence for this.

More likely, a common combination of factors causes both obesity and strokes.

Re: More Millennials Are Having Strokes

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It's mostly obesity. If we allowed for obesity as a reason to deny health coverage, then health innsurance would be affordable. And since it costs nothing to lose weight, it seems fair.

You assume some factor results in obesity, which the causes strokes. The is no evidence for this.

More likely, a common factor causes both obesity and strokes.

Re: More Millennials Are Having Strokes

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Eating a diet largely based on plants but with meat every now and then has all the benefits of a purely plant based diet but without the problems

Please name one problem with a vegan diet that's solved by meat. Meat is a carcinogen, it's highly correlated with a variety of diseases, and the "vitamin supplements" doesn't hold water seeing as how animals killed for meat have to be given vitamin supplements anyway. Eating meat is a fantastic last resort if you don't have enough food and your only other option is malnutrition/starvation, but it's terrible for you…

Carcinogen? Source?
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