For those who are seriously considering moving to a European nation for work purposes, you might want to also look up the EU blue card scheme[1] which is most likely more flexible than this for employees (no idea of equivalent for founders and investors). [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Card_(European_Union)
Welcoming Tech Talent from Around the World to France
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#22Wow you have to have a graduate degree to even be an eligible employee, never mind.
Other engineering fields have less opportunities for self-taught people and innovation in those fields are driven by people with higher degrees.
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#24"High-net-worth individuals, however, fled France last year in greater numbers than any other country. An estimated 12,000 millionaires left France last year, versus 10,000 in 2015, a gain of 20%, [...]"
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/this-country-is-no-1-for-mi...
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#25Will they pay as good as the Us? That is going to be the biggest motivator in my opinion.
No, around 40k€ / year, before taxes.
The job security once you land a decent gig is not something to be discarded. This being said, Macron does plan on making it easier for people to be fired, in order to make it easier for companies to hire. This is a big topic that I could rant for hours about.
You do get all-inclusive health care. In addition to what the government provides, most 40k€ jobs will come with an extra private insurance ("mutuelle"), which will effectively reduce health costs for you and your family to 0. Depending on how nice your company is, you might be _taxed_ on an extra 20-40€ of monthly income, which gives mutuelle rights to you and your family. If you're unlucky, 20-40€ will be deducted from your pay for every family member on the mutuelle. This is usually not negotiable as it is managed/negotiated by the employee representatives/unions.
You also get fairly decent rents. 600€/month will get you a flat in any city, except Paris/Lyon. 1000-1400€ will get you a nice place in most cities.
You also get access to a decent transportation network to most Europe, and a very good internet connectivity, at the consumer level.
I moved from France to Denmark. I would say my wealth has increased (2-3x salary increase), but my overall stress has massively increased. France has a lot of good things going for it.
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#26Wow you have to have a graduate degree to even be an eligible employee, never mind.
As it should be. We don't have people calling themselves engineers just because can type a few lines of code.
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#27Just a friendly reminder: as of today there has been a state of emergency in France for over a year now. We are talking about situation with regular army with full automatic assault weapons on the streets and police authorized to enter apartments without court order.
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#28Wow you have to have a graduate degree to even be an eligible employee, never mind.
As it should be. We don't have people calling themselves engineers just because can type a few lines of code.
The education system should be giving you clues on who you should hire. But it doesn't fulfill its mission at all.
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#29Just a friendly reminder: as of today there has been a state of emergency in France for over a year now. We are talking about situation with regular army with full automatic assault weapons on the streets and police authorized to enter apartments without court order.
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#30Wow you have to have a graduate degree to even be an eligible employee, never mind.