Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

I'm a creep. I'm sorry

500hats.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

21–30 of 453 posts

Re: I'm a creep. I'm sorry

#21

Post by protomyth »

madeofpalk wrote: post #17
seibelj wrote: post #6

I keep a 100% wall between work and personal life for a reason. Anyone I'm doing business with I see at best as a coworker or business acquaintance, so there is no risk of merging those two realms. If you are powerful man or woman, you should be aware that people who know who you are treat you differently. This Dave McClure guy actually thought all these women were into him purely because he was some amazing dude and…

Isn't there only a risk because you're a creep? My best friends have been those that I've worked with and never once has that been a problem for me because I know how to be an appropriate human being.

> Isn't there only a risk because you're a creep?

No, blackmail is possible also. Obviously, you have to be worth blackmailing, but some people have some low standards for rewards.

Re: I'm a creep. I'm sorry

#24

Post by daenz »

Is it just me, or is committing public seppuku like this really necessary? If what he did was illegal, he should face prosecution. If he's compelled to apologize and admit his guilt, he should reach out to the people he actually wronged. This kind of public self-flagellation ("I'm such a creep. Please forgive me, world.") feels really over the top, phony, and symbolic.

Re: I'm a creep. I'm sorry

#25

Post by LeoNatan25 »

ams6110 wrote: post #20
cylinder wrote: post #8

I've got to wonder, why do coworkers go out for drinks if it's not a social setting? I don't understand the logic of mixing alcohol with colleagues if you're still under the "workplace" umbrella.

I don't really understand socializing with co-workers outside of work under any circumstances, but especially with intoxicants involved. This includes company holiday parties, etc. Let work be work, and keep your social life separate. I've seen far more bad than good come out of such things.

People are people. A true friendship can form between coworkers and there is no reason to forcefully undercut such a relationship just because it's "work". People willing to do that are very weird to me, and I am glad no such people work where I work, or have worked in the past.

Re: I'm a creep. I'm sorry

#26

Post by blatherard »

cylinder wrote: post #8

I've got to wonder, why do coworkers go out for drinks if it's not a social setting? I don't understand the logic of mixing alcohol with colleagues if you're still under the "workplace" umbrella.

There are many workplace cultures where it is expected of employees to socialize after hours if they want to get ahead. Individuals in those systems are generally following their self-interest.

Re: I'm a creep. I'm sorry

#27

Post by LeoNatan25 »

daenz wrote: post #24

Is it just me, or is committing public seppuku like this really necessary? If what he did was illegal, he should face prosecution. If he's compelled to apologize and admit his guilt, he should reach out to the people he actually wronged. This kind of public self-flagellation ("I'm such a creep. Please forgive me, world.") feels really over the top, phony, and symbolic.

It did read cringe-worthy to me. But then again, the allegations are much more so.

Re: I'm a creep. I'm sorry

#28

Post by briandear »

voidhorse wrote: post #11

This just feels like an save-face operation. If these fellas want to show their commitment to changing it will require two things in my opinion: 1. A prolonged period of time without further incident. 2. Perhaps some dedicated effort to supporting, monetarily or otherwise, the elimination of this sort of behavior at the structural level? Start a campaign against sexism/harassment or something? Though to make it not a…

Does a campaign really accomplish anything? Campaigns just seem like a lot of virtue signaling without any actual substance.

How about organizations simply deal with the problem? When there is a complaint, investigate it. If it’s legitimate, discipline the perpetrator. If it’s an unfounded or malicious claim, discipline the accuser.

It’s interesting how SV makes the news for this but sexual harassment/sleeping to the top is standard operating procedure in Hollywood – the VC world makes The NY Times while the everyday stuff that happens in Hollywood would make your skin crawl.

While the SV problem exists, I can’t help but feel there is some agenda happening as other power-centric industries don’t seem to get the ink that SV does.

Re: I'm a creep. I'm sorry

#29

Post by foolfoolz »

when this happens it goes beyond just being a creep at work. the people you do this may fear retaliation for reporting the incident, work with you after (he still works at the company), and face down skeptics who can belittle what happened

this post shows some thoughtfulness, but my reaction is "stay far away from this person and this company"

Post reply on HN