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Re: Incomprehensible job titles are an elitist affectation

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Post by negativ0 »

sho wrote: post #8
pluma wrote: post #5

> Yet a nationally representative study of 1,000 British adults, with which I assisted, found that 75% of British adults thought “scrum master” was a fake job title, or didn’t know for sure if it was real. I think this bit misses the point. "Scrum master" is pretty descriptive and explicit if you are the least bit familiar with Scrum methodology . Unlike the other examples which are intentionally obscure and playful,…

To be fair, I'm in tech, have known actual "scrum masters", and still don't think it's a real job title.

yeah, i still dont understand, in my company we have 2 scrum masters, and the only thing i can see they do is sending 2 emails a week and coding like juniors.

Re: Incomprehensible job titles are an elitist affectation

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Post by slyall »

Any industry will have weird sounding titles. The different is that in IT some have only existed for a few years so they havn't had time to work their way into general public culture. A quick scan of my local jobs boards finds the following exotic titles:

  * Gib stopper  
  * Manual Materials Handler- Sample Crushing  
  * Hammerhand
  * Class 2 Civil Driver
  * Shot Firer
  * Kaiawhina
  * Precaster
  * Dogman
  * Assistant Greenkeeper
  * Concrete placer
  * Estimator

Re: Incomprehensible job titles are an elitist affectation

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Post by Negitivefrags »

matthewmacleod wrote: post #16
Negitivefrags wrote: post #10

Can we stop with the self-aggrandizing CxO titles while we are at it? I've had someone introduce themselves as a CTO of a company that has 4 people. How many other technical officers are there for you to be the chief of them? It sounds ridiculous.

I get what you mean, in that CxO titles sound silly. But I'm not sure what the alternative is, really - particularly when you're talking about a startup that's hopefully going to be growing a bit. It seems when you want to talk about your team, you really want to say 'This person does the business stuff, this person does the technical stuff, this person does the marketing stuff, this person helps with the technical s…

Technical Director is a better term. (In fact, it's the job title I use).

It says you are in charge of tech without implying anything about the size of your company.

Re: Incomprehensible job titles are an elitist affectation

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Post by spectre »

empath75 wrote: post #12

Full-stack Engineer is a perfectly descriptive job title. This is my favorite stupid job title, though: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Shing

Self proclaimed "Thought Leader" and "Digital Prophet" sounds rather egomaniacal. I just assume anyone with titles like that is trying to sell synergy and snake oil.

Re: Incomprehensible job titles are an elitist affectation

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Post by Hasknewbie »

I for one do like job adverts looking for a 'guru' or 'ninja'. They are a good early indicator that the company is either immature enough to publish such ads, or using a cynical ploy looking to attract younger/flexible recruits less likely to make 'grown-up' demands.

Re: Incomprehensible job titles are an elitist affectation

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Post by rjsw »

Negitivefrags wrote: post #24
matthewmacleod wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I get what you mean, in that CxO titles sound silly. But I'm not sure what the alternative is, really - particularly when you're talking about a startup that's hopefully going to be growing a bit. It seems when you want to talk about your team, you really want to say 'This person does the business stuff, this person does the technical stuff, this person does the marketing stuff, this person helps with the technical s…

Technical Director is a better term. (In fact, it's the job title I use). It says you are in charge of tech without implying anything about the size of your company.

It also makes it clear that you are a director of the company, a CxO might not be a member of the board.

Re: Incomprehensible job titles are an elitist affectation

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Post by muninn_ »

Yeah I cringe at a lot of the job titles I've been seeing, everything from "chief innovation officer or chief resiliency officer" to "big data consultant" (yes I know what this is I just don't like the buzzword) and it drives me kinda batty. On the other hand, I've been seeing a couple of companies employ people in "apprentice" and "journeyman" titles positions, and I like those.

Re: Incomprehensible job titles are an elitist affectation

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Post by mpfundstein »

negativ0 wrote: post #21
sho wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be fair, I'm in tech, have known actual "scrum masters", and still don't think it's a real job title.

yeah, i still dont understand, in my company we have 2 scrum masters, and the only thing i can see they do is sending 2 emails a week and coding like juniors.

They shouldnt code at all and instead be busy with coaching your team and the enterprise in practicing proper scrum
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