Scott's Cheap Flights: Growing a small side project into a booming business
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#72I think the secret of Scott's success is his incredible writing ability. Finding the cheap flights is the easy part. Communicating with users in a way that consistently wins over their hearts and minds takes a high level of consideration and creativity. This writing ability combined with his co-founder's understanding and application of direct response marketing has produced fantastic results. I am glad to see their success.
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#75Something I've noticed that's lacking from most aggregators like Kayak and SkyScanner (my current fave), is the ability to increase the price of the ultra-budget carriers by adding their carry-on baggage fees and whatnot. I don't care about checked bag fees, but some of the carry-on fees are ridiculous ($60 per overhead item?). These budget carriers are cheating the system by looking like the cheapest option, when in…
Upon checking their comment history, I saw that most users hadn't posted anything for months, or even ever. It was clear that there was some kind of voting manipulation going on, and as reddit goes, if something gains traction it's bound to get upvoted just because.
It's a bit like Candy Japan, who posts here once a month with very little to say, and nothing vaguely technical in his articles. These kinds of posts just seem like blatant advertising. What are the rules for self-promotion of services on HN? It just seems dirty when there is a half-hearted article advertising a service without being labeled as an ad.
Throwaway of course, because I'd rather not get attacked by some bots.
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#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
Wow, thanks for the feedback! Almost every single deal we send out is roundtrip. This is actually why we put "normal roundtrip price" instead of just "normal price" to help clarify this. Maybe instead we should do "Roundtrip NYC to Paris: $260" and then put "Normal Price: $900" to help clear this up. Thoughts?
Also, I'd like to filter at least on departure airport (!)
https://scottscheapflights.groovehq.com/knowledge_base/topic...
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#77Something I've noticed that's lacking from most aggregators like Kayak and SkyScanner (my current fave), is the ability to increase the price of the ultra-budget carriers by adding their carry-on baggage fees and whatnot. I don't care about checked bag fees, but some of the carry-on fees are ridiculous ($60 per overhead item?). These budget carriers are cheating the system by looking like the cheapest option, when in…
Hate to piggyback but I noticed that whenever this service gets posted on Reddit there are dozens of accounts that reply addressing Scott by name and have little to say. Upon checking their comment history, I saw that most users hadn't posted anything for months, or even ever. It was clear that there was some kind of voting manipulation going on, and as reddit goes, if something gains traction it's bound to get upvot…
I'd imagine several small businesses these days would opt for the "vote manipulation" marketing since its easy. (The Silicon Valley TV show had a similar plot point).
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#78I signed up for a couple different contests using unique e-mail addresses generated specifically for the contest (Yes, they were separate e-mails for separate contests; No, I did not double-dip my entrees). I was then signed up for 2-3 e-mail lists for 3rd party companies over the course of a couple weeks. These companies weren't even doing anything tangentially related to what Scott writes about(cheap flights). I wish it was more transparent that he was going to sign you up for these random companies.
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#79Still don't see the appeal. I get better and quicker results from theflightdeal.com and flyertalk.
Looker pivoted into doing something similar but with a mobile app (after first trying to do REALLY hard big-data work I think). They seem to perform the same kind of analysis, but with more automation and less reliance on spreadsheet. They use a really interesting input stream (real-time search query results from a GDS -- so, actual booked flights) to alert people when a route they care about is cheap vs typical prices.
Other services exist which do the same thing but for premium-cabin travel; these services tend not to be public facing and try to charge ridiculous prices in part because J/F travel carries a certain cachet and also in part because those deals tend to be considerably more fragile.
There are afaict somewhere like 10-100 of these "deal newsletter" business models doing basically the same work as the deal blogs but trying to make money on subscriptions. Very clever, I definitely respect the hustle.
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#80I recently subscribed to the UK version of this ( https://www.jacksflightclub.co.uk ). I didn't know there was a US version, I guess there might be lots of similar services. I wonder who came first.
We have plenty of copycats out there (one of the downsides of us trying to share our learnings online haha). I'd just look at when the domains were purchased if you want to know who was first ;) Also, we send deals from almost every continent (launching Africa by the end of the year).