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Scott's Cheap Flights: Growing a small side project into a booming business

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Re: Scott's Cheap Flights: Growing a small side project into a booming business

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post #11

Reminds me of: www.holidaypirates.com With special websites for most bigger European countries. Its more or less doing the same, with lots of affiliations, an app, Whatapp group, etc.

Further inspection, looks like terrible prices, the advertised rates are based upon such things as 7 people sharing.

Re: Scott's Cheap Flights: Growing a small side project into a booming business

#62
post #11

Reminds me of: www.holidaypirates.com With special websites for most bigger European countries. Its more or less doing the same, with lots of affiliations, an app, Whatapp group, etc.

Further inspection, looks like terrible prices, the advertised rates are based upon such things as 7 people sharing.

Re: Scott's Cheap Flights: Growing a small side project into a booming business

#64
Something I've noticed that's lacking from most aggregators like Kayak and SkyScanner (my current fave), is the ability to increase the price of the ultra-budget carriers by adding their carry-on baggage fees and whatnot. I don't care about checked bag fees, but some of the carry-on fees are ridiculous ($60 per overhead item?). These budget carriers are cheating the system by looking like the cheapest option, when in reality one of the more expensive carriers is actually cheaper once you compare them apples-to-apples.

Re: Scott's Cheap Flights: Growing a small side project into a booming business

#65
post #11

Reminds me of: www.holidaypirates.com With special websites for most bigger European countries. Its more or less doing the same, with lots of affiliations, an app, Whatapp group, etc.

Or fly4free or secretflying or ..

99% of the time it's just affiliate links slapped on some deals found on FlyerTalk

Re: Scott's Cheap Flights: Growing a small side project into a booming business

#66
post #37

Ouch, their site triggers one of my pet peeves about travel sites, listing prices without clarity whether the deal is one-way or round trip. NYC to Paris: $260 Normal Roundtrip Price: $900 So did people who got that deal save $380? Or did they save $640? Which is it? As feedback to Scott and Brian, this actually makes me hesitate to sign up for premium, because I don't know what level of discount we're talking about…

Wow, thanks for the feedback! Almost every single deal we send out is roundtrip. This is actually why we put "normal roundtrip price" instead of just "normal price" to help clarify this. Maybe instead we should do "Roundtrip NYC to Paris: $260" and then put "Normal Price: $900" to help clear this up. Thoughts?

Also, I'd like to filter at least on departure airport (!)

Re: Scott's Cheap Flights: Growing a small side project into a booming business

#67
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Speculation: it's possible that the source sites are actively hostile to scraping and intentionally mess with the layout regularly, or may even have ruled out any kind of automation in their ToS - so if you don't want to get sued or blacklisted, you can do no kind of (detectable) scraping.

>so if you don't want to get sued or blacklisted, you can do no kind of (detectable) scraping. So why would it be hard to make scraping undetectable, anyway, unless you do it particularly incompetently? In theory, it seems pretty easy: use a browser string that matches an existing popular browser, and make sure to not load anything faster than a human would.

Have you done much scraping in the past? There's normally a lot more to it when javascript is involved, captcha systems etc.

This is obviously helped recently by the relatively new headless modes for Chrome & Firefox, but before that it was using buggy headless implementations or Selenium. These weren't well suited to operations at scale.

Re: Scott's Cheap Flights: Growing a small side project into a booming business

#68

I recently subscribed to the UK version of this ( https://www.jacksflightclub.co.uk ). I didn't know there was a US version, I guess there might be lots of similar services. I wonder who came first.

We have plenty of copycats out there (one of the downsides of us trying to share our learnings online haha). I'd just look at when the domains were purchased if you want to know who was first ;) Also, we send deals from almost every continent (launching Africa by the end of the year).

Re: Scott's Cheap Flights: Growing a small side project into a booming business

#69
post #37

Ouch, their site triggers one of my pet peeves about travel sites, listing prices without clarity whether the deal is one-way or round trip. NYC to Paris: $260 Normal Roundtrip Price: $900 So did people who got that deal save $380? Or did they save $640? Which is it? As feedback to Scott and Brian, this actually makes me hesitate to sign up for premium, because I don't know what level of discount we're talking about…

Huh? I subscribe to lots of travel sites and it's pretty accepted that a price is round-trip unless stated otherwise.

Re: Scott's Cheap Flights: Growing a small side project into a booming business

#70
post #39

I hate to be the one to ask, but how much moat does this actually have? Couldn't Kayak literally just add a subscribe or alert me later input and have their massive infrastructure automate this very thing?

Kayak does have alert notifications.

The thing is that if you're looking for a very specific destination, you'll almost never get the best deals. Flight deals work best for people who are very flexible about destination and timing.

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