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Where Is Nokia Now?

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Re: Where Is Nokia Now?

#41

Some of the most talented people I have ever met in my 30 years in IT worked at Nokia (USA and Finland). There was something about the culture there that just made it an incredible place to work for everyone. An environment where people were treated with dignity and respect and rewarded with generosity. The Fins are incredibly hard working and talented along with their US counterparts. I imagine any company that hire…

From education to business, it seems Finland is a special place.

Re: Where Is Nokia Now?

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post #39

Nokia bought Alcatel-Lucent who previously bought Timetra which was a silicon valley start up that at one time was meant to compete with Cisco, a pretty bold move for sure. They had some pretty amazing stuff (IMHO) but I think one acquisition after another ruined them, sad I think.

Wait, Microsoft owns bell labs now? That's pretty weird.

Nokia!

Re: Where Is Nokia Now?

#43

My paranoid brain often thought that Microsoft not only acquired their stake in Nokia for Windows phones but also to control some aspects of Qt as it was quickly unloaded from Nokia after Microsoft entered the picture. A sort of power play which we all saw later on with Xamarin without the feel-good outcome that Xamarin eventually had. Qt Creator is a joy to work with for open source software in my opinion for even j…

I would imagine in a large enough acquisition like that Qt was probably at the bottom and wasn't even noticed much.

For example The Qt company makes about $30M in revenue and Microsoft spent about $7B for the acquisition. That's less than 1% of the $7B.

Re: Where Is Nokia Now?

#44

My paranoid brain often thought that Microsoft not only acquired their stake in Nokia for Windows phones but also to control some aspects of Qt as it was quickly unloaded from Nokia after Microsoft entered the picture. A sort of power play which we all saw later on with Xamarin without the feel-good outcome that Xamarin eventually had. Qt Creator is a joy to work with for open source software in my opinion for even j…

Even in 2017, with several uses across Symbian, Blackberry, Ubuntu and Jolla SDKs, Qt is lacking in regards to mobile OS API support.

Unless one is doing GUI apps required without integration with OS APIs or their native UIs, replicating everything in QML (C++ widgets are not supported) and writting JNI and Objective-C++ wrappers isn't that much fun.

Xamarin gets more love from app developers, because even before Microsoft's acquisition they had a whole set of teams dedicated to doing nothing else other than achieving parity with iOS and Android native APIs.

Re: Where Is Nokia Now?

#45
post #39

Nokia bought Alcatel-Lucent who previously bought Timetra which was a silicon valley start up that at one time was meant to compete with Cisco, a pretty bold move for sure. They had some pretty amazing stuff (IMHO) but I think one acquisition after another ruined them, sad I think.

Wait, Microsoft owns bell labs now? That's pretty weird.

Nokia owns bell labs. Theres no ties anymore with Microsoft.

Re: Where Is Nokia Now?

#46
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Even if you use a pencil you still have one more step that on a smart scale! You said the advantage was it's faster and it isn't.

You'd think, but the setup and configuration on these things can take forever. And nevermind the things that can and occasionally do go wrong and need fixing.

It took literally 5 minutes to set up my scale to connect to Wifi and I've had to change the battery once in 3 years.

You're vastly overestimating the friction here.

Re: Where Is Nokia Now?

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I can't understand how it could possibly be faster to stand on a scale, remember a number, go to your phone, open a spreadsheet and input it... than to just stand on the scale. I mean the manual approach starts with the only step of the automatic approach. You don't have to fumble with bluetooth or apps. It takes the measurement and uploads it to the internet with no help over WiFi after you have configured it once i…

"The only step" presumes that the automatic approach Just Works™ at a price you're willing to pay (including having someone else own your data). A $20 scale in the bathroom with a 3x5 card and a pen nearby has worked out pretty well for me over the last 3 years. There's two whole steps, but they're entirely transparent and quick, the equipment involved is affordable, I haven't had to spend time on setup or troublesho…

The privacy is pretty good too.

As always, that depends on your threat model. There are potential attackers (read: snooping family members) with physical access to my bathroom.

Re: Where Is Nokia Now?

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Every time the fall of Nokia is mentioned I always retell the feelings I had sitting in Ruholahti, Helsinki on February 2011- the Friday of my first week at the company; and hearing the news that R&D was shutting down in favour of Windows Phone. Many considered it an inferior product, many had just lost the work of their lives. Most just went to the bar across the street. I feel the heart and soul of Nokia, just like…

Ruho = cadaver

Ruoho = grass

You were in Ruoholahti, although I suppose there's some irony in that typo.

Re: Where Is Nokia Now?

#49

There are certain brands that I will go out of my way to purchase... Nokia is one of them. They could be selling euthanasia kits and I'd get in line for one.

Well, euthanasia is one of the things where you really like that things are done properly.

Though unfortunately Nokia isn't going there.

Re: Where Is Nokia Now?

#50

It seems that Nokia is trying to make up for their missed shot at smartphones by aiming at every emerging, cool market. I know Nokia is a strong brand, but I doubt that is the proper way for them to get back to being loved company.

They went back to a market that is not that cool but where the bar of entry is very high because real engineering is required: network equipment. On this market you deal with other companies, the prices of everything are very high, projects take a long time to implement and everything is more predictable. Sure there is some competition but nobody can hack something in a garage and compete with them.
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