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Where Is Nokia Now?

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Re: Where Is Nokia Now?

#11

Post by wvenable »

clamprecht wrote: post #7
newobj wrote: post #2

Where are they now? Acquiring and aggressively ruining my Withings Body Composition scale, that's where.

Yep... it's amazing they could screw that up. Can anyone recommend a replacement for the Withings scale? All I want it to do is record my weight every time I step on it, send it up to the Internet, and let me view it in my browser and iPhone.

I've built a such a scale using a raspberry Pi 3 and a Wii balance board. Step on the scale and it sends to my phone where an app records it in Samsung health.

It's still a work in progress but it's functional.

Re: Where Is Nokia Now?

#12

Post by tdicola »

clamprecht wrote: post #7
newobj wrote: post #2

Where are they now? Acquiring and aggressively ruining my Withings Body Composition scale, that's where.

Yep... it's amazing they could screw that up. Can anyone recommend a replacement for the Withings scale? All I want it to do is record my weight every time I step on it, send it up to the Internet, and let me view it in my browser and iPhone.

Just use a Google Sheets or other online doc and a normal scale. It's so much faster in my experience to use a normal scale, read the number, then pop open the sheet (it can be a direct link on your homescreen) and type in the weight on a new line vs. fumbling with bluetooth connections, horrible apps, etc. Your data is never locked in to a service and you can graph, chart, analyze, etc. as much as you want too.

Re: Where Is Nokia Now?

#13

Post by jpatokal »

Yellow_Boat wrote: post #10

It seems that Nokia is trying to make up for their missed shot at smartphones by aiming at every emerging, cool market. I know Nokia is a strong brand, but I doubt that is the proper way for them to get back to being loved company.

The Nokia of today is first and foremost a business-to-business network supplier: even its name is back to Nokia Networks. All the consumer investments on the side are only side bets that may or may not take off.

Re: Where Is Nokia Now?

#14

Post by chrisseaton »

tdicola wrote: post #12
clamprecht wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep... it's amazing they could screw that up. Can anyone recommend a replacement for the Withings scale? All I want it to do is record my weight every time I step on it, send it up to the Internet, and let me view it in my browser and iPhone.

Just use a Google Sheets or other online doc and a normal scale. It's so much faster in my experience to use a normal scale, read the number, then pop open the sheet (it can be a direct link on your homescreen) and type in the weight on a new line vs. fumbling with bluetooth connections, horrible apps, etc. Your data is never locked in to a service and you can graph, chart, analyze, etc. as much as you want too.

I can't understand how it could possibly be faster to stand on a scale, remember a number, go to your phone, open a spreadsheet and input it... than to just stand on the scale.

I mean the manual approach starts with the only step of the automatic approach.

You don't have to fumble with bluetooth or apps. It takes the measurement and uploads it to the internet with no help over WiFi after you have configured it once in its lifetime. It tells me my weight and my trend on the screen, so I don't need to open the app.

Once a month or so I look online or on the app and get the effect of the spreadsheet.

Re: Where Is Nokia Now?

#15

Post by Spooky23 »

chrisseaton wrote: post #14
tdicola wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just use a Google Sheets or other online doc and a normal scale. It's so much faster in my experience to use a normal scale, read the number, then pop open the sheet (it can be a direct link on your homescreen) and type in the weight on a new line vs. fumbling with bluetooth connections, horrible apps, etc. Your data is never locked in to a service and you can graph, chart, analyze, etc. as much as you want too.

I can't understand how it could possibly be faster to stand on a scale, remember a number, go to your phone, open a spreadsheet and input it... than to just stand on the scale. I mean the manual approach starts with the only step of the automatic approach. You don't have to fumble with bluetooth or apps. It takes the measurement and uploads it to the internet with no help over WiFi after you have configured it once i…

Pencils (not the Apple one) that let you etch things on a pad of paper.

End of the day, your weight doesn't fluctuate that much... that level of precision doesn't add much value and can make weight loss harder.

Re: Where Is Nokia Now?

#17

Post by chrisseaton »

Spooky23 wrote: post #15
chrisseaton wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't understand how it could possibly be faster to stand on a scale, remember a number, go to your phone, open a spreadsheet and input it... than to just stand on the scale. I mean the manual approach starts with the only step of the automatic approach. You don't have to fumble with bluetooth or apps. It takes the measurement and uploads it to the internet with no help over WiFi after you have configured it once i…

Pencils (not the Apple one) that let you etch things on a pad of paper. End of the day, your weight doesn't fluctuate that much... that level of precision doesn't add much value and can make weight loss harder.

Even if you use a pencil you still have one more step that on a smart scale! You said the advantage was it's faster and it isn't.

Re: Where Is Nokia Now?

#18

Post by Geee »

jpatokal wrote: post #13
Yellow_Boat wrote: post #10

It seems that Nokia is trying to make up for their missed shot at smartphones by aiming at every emerging, cool market. I know Nokia is a strong brand, but I doubt that is the proper way for them to get back to being loved company.

The Nokia of today is first and foremost a business-to-business network supplier: even its name is back to Nokia Networks. All the consumer investments on the side are only side bets that may or may not take off.

Their brand name everywhere is Nokia, not Nokia Networks. Networks is a division (and subsidiary) of Nokia. They have networks, health, virtual reality and phones.

Re: Where Is Nokia Now?

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Post by wwweston »

chrisseaton wrote: post #14
tdicola wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just use a Google Sheets or other online doc and a normal scale. It's so much faster in my experience to use a normal scale, read the number, then pop open the sheet (it can be a direct link on your homescreen) and type in the weight on a new line vs. fumbling with bluetooth connections, horrible apps, etc. Your data is never locked in to a service and you can graph, chart, analyze, etc. as much as you want too.

I can't understand how it could possibly be faster to stand on a scale, remember a number, go to your phone, open a spreadsheet and input it... than to just stand on the scale. I mean the manual approach starts with the only step of the automatic approach. You don't have to fumble with bluetooth or apps. It takes the measurement and uploads it to the internet with no help over WiFi after you have configured it once i…

"The only step" presumes that the automatic approach Just Works™ at a price you're willing to pay (including having someone else own your data).

A $20 scale in the bathroom with a 3x5 card and a pen nearby has worked out pretty well for me over the last 3 years. There's two whole steps, but they're entirely transparent and quick, the equipment involved is affordable, I haven't had to spend time on setup or troubleshooting beyond occasionally retrieving a new 3x5 card or pen from my office supply box. The privacy is pretty good too.

Once every week or two I look at the 3x5 cards and can see what the trend looks like.

Re: Where Is Nokia Now?

#20

Post by Retra »

Infernal wrote: post #8
clamprecht wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep... it's amazing they could screw that up. Can anyone recommend a replacement for the Withings scale? All I want it to do is record my weight every time I step on it, send it up to the Internet, and let me view it in my browser and iPhone.

As someone who doesn't have familiarity with Withings products but is considering buying one of the Nokia scales - how did they screw it up? What would you want a "smart" scale to do that the Nokia doesn't?

What do you want a smart scale to not do that Nokia does?
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