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Recently EU parliament voted to introduce visas for US citizens due to unequal treatment of EU countries. "About f ing time", I though. Few months pass and I read that EU Commission will do nothing*. I hate those bureaucrats in the EU. EU should retaliate (not of malice, just to force equal treatment). It's not a visa waiver if you can be denied entry so easily, as many people are. And of course not all EU countries…

Brazil has a mirror policy with the US when it comes to Visas.

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The US has generally been quite isolationist. Both before WW1 and before WW2 there were really strong isolationist currents in US politics. I think that it's part of the "Chine syndrome": they're big, kind of isolated and mostly self-sufficient (or perceive themselves to be so). People seem to have forgotten that the US opening during and after WW2 turned the US into the world's #1 super power. I guess it's hard to l…

https://twitter.com/touchmybobby/status/833156775931174912 > as a job-stealing immigrant, I now have 36 jobs and counting. I keep them in my basement like some kind of job dragon. what you gonna do

> what you gonna do

Call Ghost Busters

Re: Author of cURL denied entry to the USA

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My guess is that DHS denies entry to random people just to hit some internal quotas.

This. Without reading the article, my first assumption is that a Visa was denied on random grounds, eg coming from a country where visas are already hard to get. I can't believe anyone on the US Visa offices actually doing their research on the person.

Countries where VISA applications have a high failure rate aren't part of the ESTA program to begin with. Having a low rejection rate is a condition for being in the program.

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> This may be unpopular on an US-centric site like HN, but the US looks more and more like they want to isolate themselves from the rest of the world: very strict immigration policy, travelers molested by TSA on airports, ... Almost all Americans think this sort of thing is nonsense. But the average American has little standing to hold the American bureaucracy accountable for its nonsense. Americans, especially outsi…

> Almost all Americans think this sort of thing is nonsense. But the average American has little standing to hold the American bureaucracy accountable for its nonsense. Sorry but they don't get off that easy when almost half of them voted Trump into office. > Americans, especially outside overcrowded urban areas, are courteous, helpful, hospitable people that are very tolerant of other people and ideas. I've found qu…

Agreed, I grew up in the midwest and I now live in NYC, and New Yorkers are far, far nicer than midwesterners. The intolerance in the red parts of the US is suffocating.

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Please don't say "Americans" don't want foreigners on our soil. A minority of Americans allowed a hostile foreign government to manipulate our election process to raise a corrupt, compromised bigot to power. Most Americans want our country to be open and free. Painting every American this way does nothing to recognize the misery of this situation.

Please stop shifting the blame to outside forces. Losing to the most incompetent candidate ever despite the full support of the traditional media, Hollywood and the political establishment on both sides shows how bad Hillary's campaign was and how Obama failed to bring "hope and change". There should've been a torrent of resignations among the dems after this results and yet they continue like nothing happened and ju…

Wow wow what you mean it's our own fault... fighting words. Obviously the answer is always Commies did it.

Re: Author of cURL denied entry to the USA

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No one should be held responsible for a fact that causes damage without direct involvement. The legal system uses `iuris personae` and limited liability precisely for this. Distinguishing a natural person from a legal person in this case is contrary to the purpose of the laws in force. Each tool can be used for good and for evil: risk management is primarily used to hedge against the risk of a contingent, uncertain l…

He wasn't denied entry into the US. He was denied access to a fast track system for entry into the US, so he has to use the slow, annoying, more methodical way. It certainly sucks, but your summary of the US legal system is irrelevant.

The nuance you're trying to invent is meaningless if you miss your flight and the conference.

Re: Author of cURL denied entry to the USA

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He seems to have tried to enter USA using ESTA. ESTA is not a visa, it's a visa-waiver program. It's specifically created as an easier method of entering a country, but as a trade-off, it says in the terms that they can deny it for any reason with no questions. This does not mean that the person cannot enter the country per se, it just means they need to apply for a real visa.

I do not get your point. The ESTA is the only way to get to the country if you're going to a conference or on holidays or to visit someone. If you're looking for better, you need to find a job to sponsor you and you need to go through the lottery (H1B). Or you need to work for a US company abroad for more than a year (L1). Or you need to get married with an american person.

There are regular tourism/business visitor visa's I'm sure.

But those are more of a hassle compare to ESTA. Nobody from an ESTA country will do those if they're not immediately denied.

Re: Author of cURL denied entry to the USA

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For instance: I know that Texas is a red state but was quite surprised to find out that the largest urban centres are actually blue. And it seems that this trend follows all along the country, large urbanised areas are blue (even in red states) while the countryside votes more for the GOP, meaning a more conservative worldview (and that clashes with the statement "courteous, helpful, hospitable people that are very t…

> I understand that people from the countryside can be seen as kinder towards people they like but my impression is that hatred and prejudice is much more prevalent there... That's not my experience at all. I dealt with more overt racism in NYC than any tiny red state town, and I've spent plenty of time in both. There are racist people everywhere, but even in rural areas, they tend to be ignorant and antisocial so th…

What about the red states bordering Colorado suing to try to get federal courts to nullify its legalization?

Re: Author of cURL denied entry to the USA

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For instance: I know that Texas is a red state but was quite surprised to find out that the largest urban centres are actually blue. And it seems that this trend follows all along the country, large urbanised areas are blue (even in red states) while the countryside votes more for the GOP, meaning a more conservative worldview (and that clashes with the statement "courteous, helpful, hospitable people that are very t…

> I understand that people from the countryside can be seen as kinder towards people they like but my impression is that hatred and prejudice is much more prevalent there... That's not my experience at all. I dealt with more overt racism in NYC than any tiny red state town, and I've spent plenty of time in both. There are racist people everywhere, but even in rural areas, they tend to be ignorant and antisocial so th…

The GOP continues to be impregnated with racism thanks to the southern strategy.[0] If you don't think out in the open racist culture is alive, well and considered normal in the rural south, you are fooling yourself.

[0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy

Re: Author of cURL denied entry to the USA

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I do not get your point. The ESTA is the only way to get to the country if you're going to a conference or on holidays or to visit someone. If you're looking for better, you need to find a job to sponsor you and you need to go through the lottery (H1B). Or you need to work for a US company abroad for more than a year (L1). Or you need to get married with an american person.

There are regular tourism/business visitor visa's I'm sure. But those are more of a hassle compare to ESTA. Nobody from an ESTA country will do those if they're not immediately denied.

> There are regular tourism/business visitor visa's I'm sure.

Nope.

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