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Re: Author of cURL denied entry to the USA

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Post by baybal2 »

I was denied entry once, and I am a frequent flyer.

It was at Calgary's airport. I was called out for a search. Then, border security guys spent an hour having coffee and my plane flew away. I came to them and made them have a very unpleasant conversation with me for the next hour.

They summoned their higher up, who came with an official entry refusal with no reason stated, citing that he has no obligation to give one.

The bastard had a badge with name R. Torres on it.

Nevertheless, I flew the next day on the same airline.

Re: Author of cURL denied entry to the USA

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Post by caseysoftware »

Considering the various "terrorist watch lists" are basically vaguely defined names and anyone can get added trivially, without review, and without a way to challenge[1], is anyone really surprised? When it's bad enough that a sitting US Senator was stopped and interrogated because "T Kennedy" was on the list[2], we passed that absurdity threshold a long time ago.

1 - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/25/terrorist-watch-lis...

2 - http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/07/politics/no-fly-mistakes-cat-s...

Re: Author of cURL denied entry to the USA

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Post by dagw »

piva00 wrote: post #187
humanrebar wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't mind elaborating. I need to know which parts of the American voting record concerns you to be specific though. I will say that America is very diverse. Various states and postal codes have wildly different attitudes about things and very few Americans want to change or homogenize that.

For instance: I know that Texas is a red state but was quite surprised to find out that the largest urban centres are actually blue. And it seems that this trend follows all along the country, large urbanised areas are blue (even in red states) while the countryside votes more for the GOP, meaning a more conservative worldview (and that clashes with the statement "courteous, helpful, hospitable people that are very t…

was quite surprised to find out that the largest urban centres are actually blue.

Looking at maps like these:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:2016_Nationwide_US_presid...

http://www.270towin.com/2016-house-election/

is always useful to remind yourself that there are still plenty of 'red' pockets in deeply 'blue' states and vice versa. In 2016 presidential election I believe there where only two states where all counties went Republican and two states where all went Democratic.

Re: Author of cURL denied entry to the USA

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Post by cjrp »

Piskvorrr wrote: post #183
dalovar wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I propose the Bahamas as the new location to do meetups, it's close to the US, has casinos, good conference rooms, it's a tax haven, AND the Hearthstone's World Championship will be done there. Blizzard must have chosen that location for a reason.. Other than that, sad for Daniel. This is madness =(

How do you get there? USA requires visa even for transfers, and most flights to the Bahamas originate or stop over in the USA, bringing the issue back to square 1.

There are flights via Toronto, for example

Re: Author of cURL denied entry to the USA

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Post by bythckr »

y0ghur7_xxx wrote: post #40

This may be unpopular on an US-centric site like HN, but the US looks more and more like they want to isolate themselves from the rest of the world: very strict immigration policy, travelers molested by TSA on airports, ... These conferences where people around the world meet should start to be hosted somewhere else. Not in the USA anymore. Somewhere in a country that welcomes people instead of treating all of them l…

Which website is NOT US-centric? The whole internet is US centric like Reddit, stackoverflow, quora, XDA, 4chan. All the major sites are based in US.

Honestly, which are the non US-centric sites in English language?

Re: Author of cURL denied entry to the USA

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Post by [deleted] »

bythckr wrote: post #195
y0ghur7_xxx wrote: post #40

This may be unpopular on an US-centric site like HN, but the US looks more and more like they want to isolate themselves from the rest of the world: very strict immigration policy, travelers molested by TSA on airports, ... These conferences where people around the world meet should start to be hosted somewhere else. Not in the USA anymore. Somewhere in a country that welcomes people instead of treating all of them l…

Which website is NOT US-centric? The whole internet is US centric like Reddit, stackoverflow, quora, XDA, 4chan. All the major sites are based in US. Honestly, which are the non US-centric sites in English language?

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Re: Author of cURL denied entry to the USA

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Post by gcoda »

op00to wrote: post #144

We didn't elect Donald Trump. He was installed by the Russian government.

You age giving too much credit to Russia, it easy to blame someone else, like in Russia people blaming Obama for bad roads and high prices, and simply ignoring corruption that ruins everything. And here in Ukraine everything bad is blamed on Russia, no one in power will take the blame, it is simple to say "Putin did it"

Re: Author of cURL denied entry to the USA

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Post by jordigh »

fnj wrote: post #176
0x0 wrote: post #159

Would it be possible to change the license of cURL to one that denies usage inside the US? :P

If you have control of the copyright, yes, you could change the license from straight GPL to any kind of customized license you want. I guess you could restrict access to any group you want. But if it's open source, it would be pretty difficult to enforce your policy. Even if you closed the source, ruining it for linux, what good would that do? The cat is out of the bag already. Anybody could just use the existing op…

> But if it's open source, it would be pretty difficult to enforce your policy.

So, two things: (1) a license that discriminates against a particular group is not open source, (2) being open source or not has nothing to do with whether enforcing the license will be difficult. Enforcing the license is just a matter of the resources available to the copyright holders. Many proprietary licenses are routinely violated, some free and open source licenses have been enforced.

Re: Author of cURL denied entry to the USA

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Post by jbmorgado »

dredmorbius wrote: post #108
nickserv wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Almost all Americans think this sort of thing is nonsense. But the average American has little standing to hold the American bureaucracy accountable for its nonsense. Sorry but they don't get off that easy when almost half of them voted Trump into office. > Americans, especially outside overcrowded urban areas, are courteous, helpful, hospitable people that are very tolerant of other people and ideas. I've found qu…

In the 2016 U.S. Presidential election, roughly 63 million votes, of a population of 325 million, were cast for #45. That is 19% of the total population. Reliable sources inform me that this may in fact be significantly less than half of all Americans. The notion of the nutcase fringe in politics has been around for a while -- there's about 20% of the vote you've got to be very aware of. Where other voters are insuff…

Are you actually putting newborn children in the mix to pretend that only 19% of Americans wanted Trump there?

Re: Author of cURL denied entry to the USA

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Post by baby »

nsebban wrote: post #50
y0ghur7_xxx wrote: post #40

This may be unpopular on an US-centric site like HN, but the US looks more and more like they want to isolate themselves from the rest of the world: very strict immigration policy, travelers molested by TSA on airports, ... These conferences where people around the world meet should start to be hosted somewhere else. Not in the USA anymore. Somewhere in a country that welcomes people instead of treating all of them l…

Nice and Cannes, France are great places for conferences. We'll gladly have you guys over here :)

I'd rather go to Bordeaux, Montpellier or Rennes to attend a conference :)
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