"if the app is banned in Russia then the government officials will entrust their communications to other countries' messengers" Nice counter :)
No problem, they'll just ban all the other messengers. Line and KakaoTalk are already banned. There's nothing a dictatorship hates more than communications that cannot be eavesdropped on.
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#42"if the app is banned in Russia then the government officials will entrust their communications to other countries' messengers" Nice counter :)
They could just use Matrix / Riot, since they are both fully open source and auditable on client and server. Hell, I'd like the Russian gov't to start using Riot. Would definitely give them that security audit they need for trustability on their olm. Maybe you shouldn't trust a Russian state audit, but it just takes large users to motivate third parties to start auditing it.
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No problem, they'll just ban all the other messengers. Line and KakaoTalk are already banned. There's nothing a dictatorship hates more than communications that cannot be eavesdropped on.
The perpetrators of the recent terrorist attack in Saint Petersburg Metro were using Telegram.
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#44Unfortunately looks like P2P messengers are not available/not existent nowadays. Especially on mobile. All we have phone tied centralized apps.
Is something wrong with tox? It is a p2p messenger that works on smartphones.
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#45Unfortunately looks like P2P messengers are not available/not existent nowadays. Especially on mobile. All we have phone tied centralized apps.
The readme doesn't do it justice. It's actually very functional if I bothered to document how to use it, and I have a working GTK-based frontend that works well too.
tl;dr: Its network architecture is loosely based on the BitTorrent DHT. Each node forwards a message as closely as it can to the intended recipient, who upon receiving it issues an ack back to the network.
Yet to be done is providing some mechanism for "proving" your identity, integrating libsignal for encrypting messages, and much more.
I'm trying to get it to show HN-tier so that I can solicit help working on it.
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Telegram being secure or not is a separate question. Secure messaging is hard, most people when producing secure messaging will produce poor secure messaging - it doesn't mean they've been compromised by a government.
Yes but Telegram continues to avoid fixing flaws that have been pointed out by cryptographers. It's one thing to get some security wrong because its "hard." It's another to not fix those problems when people explain how and why you did something wrong.
RSA encryption is theoretically breakable by quantum computers, but people still use it and gonna be using it until someone break it.
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"Purported"? http://www.reuters.com/article/us-iran-cyber-telegram-exclus... People have written academic papers about how bad Telegram's underlying crypto is.
Someone needs to publish an exploit, how come I have never seen a single one yet
Can't do it? That must mean there are no exploits for Firefox.
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#48>Fri Jun 23, 2017 | 5:00pm EDT Here is a newer article (there were a couple of developments on weekend): https://en.crimerussia.com/gromkie-dela/durov-criticizes-ros...
Ironically this website does not open from Russia (had to use a VPN to access it). Same agency's shills in Russian Duma (parliament) are planning another law banning VPN and Anonymizer services. Censorship is coming down hard, it seems...
Re: Russia threatens to block Telegram
#49Unfortunately looks like P2P messengers are not available/not existent nowadays. Especially on mobile. All we have phone tied centralized apps.
Is something wrong with tox? It is a p2p messenger that works on smartphones.
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Is something wrong with tox? It is a p2p messenger that works on smartphones.
Homebrew crypto written by 4chan. No offline messages. Drains a gigabyte of data and battery overnight thanks to P2P.
Where did you get that from? Tox uses libsodium. [0]
[0] https://github.com/irungentoo/toxcore/blob/master/docs/updat...