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Re: Russia threatens to block Telegram

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Or it is just a charade to make it look like Telegram is not controlled by the kreml

Why would someone who has stood up to the Russian government multiple times, had a company taken away from him already for not being compliant and is now living in exile hand control of Telegram to that same government?

Why would such someone would wave flag of security making it the biggest selling point and then go with questionable practices?

Re: Russia threatens to block Telegram

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For the amount of haters telegram had when they launched for their purported security failures, it's funny that people are looking to block it instead of silently explore its flaws

Or it is just a charade to make it look like Telegram is not controlled by the kreml

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Re: Russia threatens to block Telegram

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>Fri Jun 23, 2017 | 5:00pm EDT Here is a newer article (there were a couple of developments on weekend): https://en.crimerussia.com/gromkie-dela/durov-criticizes-ros...

Ironically this website does not open from Russia (had to use a VPN to access it). Same agency's shills in Russian Duma (parliament) are planning another law banning VPN and Anonymizer services. Censorship is coming down hard, it seems...

Shadowsocks has you covered :)

Re: Russia threatens to block Telegram

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would someone who has stood up to the Russian government multiple times, had a company taken away from him already for not being compliant and is now living in exile hand control of Telegram to that same government?

Why would such someone would wave flag of security making it the biggest selling point and then go with questionable practices?

Telegram being secure or not is a separate question.

Secure messaging is hard, most people when producing secure messaging will produce poor secure messaging - it doesn't mean they've been compromised by a government.

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>Fri Jun 23, 2017 | 5:00pm EDT Here is a newer article (there were a couple of developments on weekend): https://en.crimerussia.com/gromkie-dela/durov-criticizes-ros...

Ironically this website does not open from Russia (had to use a VPN to access it). Same agency's shills in Russian Duma (parliament) are planning another law banning VPN and Anonymizer services. Censorship is coming down hard, it seems...

Also: https://www.rt.com/politics/389683-russian-public-supports-m...

Over 40 percent of Russians support the verification of internet users on social networks or other internet platforms, as proposed in a bill drafted by a well-known pro-Orthodox lawmaker.

I wonder if it's real or just propaganda? FWIW,

In May, Russian President Vladimir Putin signed the strategy for the development of the Russian information community between 2017 and 2030. This document states that in order to successfully develop the internet and the communications infrastructure as a whole, the country needs working mechanisms that would introduce a system of trust between users, and eliminate anonymity and the lack of responsibility that it causes.

Re: Russia threatens to block Telegram

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ironically this website does not open from Russia (had to use a VPN to access it). Same agency's shills in Russian Duma (parliament) are planning another law banning VPN and Anonymizer services. Censorship is coming down hard, it seems...

Also: https://www.rt.com/politics/389683-russian-public-supports-m... Over 40 percent of Russians support the verification of internet users on social networks or other internet platforms, as proposed in a bill drafted by a well-known pro-Orthodox lawmaker. I wonder if it's real or just propaganda? FWIW, In May, Russian President Vladimir Putin signed the strategy for the development of the Russian information commun…

Of course Russia Today is going to toe the Party line... Most people here call this "Crazy Printer", as in a machine that produces copious amounts of insane legislation.

Usually people co-sponsoring this kind of legislation have ties to various corporations or government entities. Most of those things are fast-tracked without any kind of input from the populace.

Re: Russia threatens to block Telegram

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or it is just a charade to make it look like Telegram is not controlled by the kreml

Why would someone who has stood up to the Russian government multiple times, had a company taken away from him already for not being compliant and is now living in exile hand control of Telegram to that same government?

Why are you assuming that Pavel is the only possible exploit that could be used to own Telegram?

Re: Russia threatens to block Telegram

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There is no such agency "Russian Federal Service". You have "Russian Federal Service for Supervision in the Sphere of Telecom, Information Technologies and Mass Communications" which is too verbose to refer in the article. I think a generic name such as "Russian Communications Watchdog" is better fit.

Roskomnadzor

Ros - Russian

kom - communications

nadzor - supervision/surveillance

Re: Russia threatens to block Telegram

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would someone who has stood up to the Russian government multiple times, had a company taken away from him already for not being compliant and is now living in exile hand control of Telegram to that same government?

Why are you assuming that Pavel is the only possible exploit that could be used to own Telegram?

because that is what they're implying when they say "controlled" by the kremlin
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