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6 Women Accuse Tech VC Justin Caldbeck of Sexual Assault and Harassment

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Re: 6 Women Accuse Tech VC Justin Caldbeck of Sexual Assault and Harassment

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This article has zero information, but a picture and name of the accused man. This modern kind of witch hunt is disgusting. It also seems to be that the bar for calling something sexual harassement is constantly lowered and results in a poisoned atmosphere where any playful transgression between genders is rendered impossible. It also contradicts my personal experience, where men and women alike enjoy to initiate talk about explicitly sexual topics, both at work or elsewhere. Most times I see sexual harassment reported, I cannot help the impression that there is very little damage but the accuser enjoys the combination of showing her privilege as an attractive person while victimising herself. I am happy that these poisoned perceptions and regulations have not yet fully come to Europe, but without questioning the purpose and truthfulness of articles as this, it is just a matter of time. I am not saying sexual harassment is not happening, I have indeed been subjected to it myself, but if this leads to a man being pilloried like this without substantial and specific proof, the damage outweighs the benefits by far.

Re: 6 Women Accuse Tech VC Justin Caldbeck of Sexual Assault and Harassment

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honestly, it wouldn't make a difference. Some VCs are sleazy, but their money's still green. I know with certainty of at least two firms with predatory/creepy partners, but that wouldn't stop me from including them in a round. This behaviour is inappropriate, but it's not nearly as bad as what we learn to fend off at the average final club/frat party.

> their money's still green VCs do not invest their own money. Instead they invest money of their limited partners. If limited partners learn that their investments are used to fund VC's love life - they would be furious and likely to withdraw their money.

Not if it provides good returns. People still own stock in Phillip Morris.

Re: 6 Women Accuse Tech VC Justin Caldbeck of Sexual Assault and Harassment

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What? Anyone can be sexually harassed by anyone else, workplace has nothing to do with it. Sexual harassment in the workplace is egregious because the conflict of interests. E.g. my boss harasses me, but if I complain I jeopardize my livelihood.

workplace has nothing to do with it. Unfortunately this isn't true, from a legal point of view; in many jurisdictions, the legal definition of SH is specifically tailored (and constrained) to "the workplace". Mind you I'm not talking about what's "slimy", "invasive", or what infringes on one's natural rights as a human being or anything about that. But rather, the legal definition . Which doesn't always jibe with wha…

Where?

Re: 6 Women Accuse Tech VC Justin Caldbeck of Sexual Assault and Harassment

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This article has zero information, but a picture and name of the accused man. This modern kind of witch hunt is disgusting. It also seems to be that the bar for calling something sexual harassement is constantly lowered and results in a poisoned atmosphere where any playful transgression between genders is rendered impossible. It also contradicts my personal experience, where men and women alike enjoy to initiate tal…

> where any playful transgression between genders is rendered impossible.

As it damn well should be.

To be clear: if you're making unwanted 'transgressions' against women in your workplace then you are in the wrong. Women are not your playthings.

Re: 6 Women Accuse Tech VC Justin Caldbeck of Sexual Assault and Harassment

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post #327

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am the very close relative of two women in tech. One of my relatives was on the receiving end of repeated, unwanted advances over the last several months, none of which were reported to HR because she didn't want to destroy her career at the company. Last weekend she received an unsolicited, nearly naked photo from the same male co-worker. Needless to say, he is no longer at the company. This is sad on two counts.…

Does sending dick-pics or beefcake shots actually work? Especially if you keep getting rejection? What prompts this kind of mentality?

> What prompts this kind of mentality?

Maladjusted chuds being maladjusted.

Re: 6 Women Accuse Tech VC Justin Caldbeck of Sexual Assault and Harassment

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post #354

This article has zero information, but a picture and name of the accused man. This modern kind of witch hunt is disgusting. It also seems to be that the bar for calling something sexual harassement is constantly lowered and results in a poisoned atmosphere where any playful transgression between genders is rendered impossible. It also contradicts my personal experience, where men and women alike enjoy to initiate tal…

> where any playful transgression between genders is rendered impossible. As it damn well should be. To be clear: if you're making unwanted 'transgressions' against women in your workplace then you are in the wrong. Women are not your playthings.

I don't believe the original comment was referring to anything other than banter among a group. I have been in perfectly reasonable conversations within a group where a woman has taken a statement so wildly out of context that frivolous reports are filed and it hurts the credibility of any truly meaningful incidents that may have happened.

> Women are not your playthings

Yeah, you're right. Neither are the livelihoods of men who have to police perfectly normal speech for fear of being purposefully twisted.

I'm obviously not referring to the Caldbeck situation.

Re: 6 Women Accuse Tech VC Justin Caldbeck of Sexual Assault and Harassment

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post #354

This article has zero information, but a picture and name of the accused man. This modern kind of witch hunt is disgusting. It also seems to be that the bar for calling something sexual harassement is constantly lowered and results in a poisoned atmosphere where any playful transgression between genders is rendered impossible. It also contradicts my personal experience, where men and women alike enjoy to initiate tal…

> where any playful transgression between genders is rendered impossible. As it damn well should be. To be clear: if you're making unwanted 'transgressions' against women in your workplace then you are in the wrong. Women are not your playthings.

playful (mutual) != unwanted

Re: 6 Women Accuse Tech VC Justin Caldbeck of Sexual Assault and Harassment

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post #354

This article has zero information, but a picture and name of the accused man. This modern kind of witch hunt is disgusting. It also seems to be that the bar for calling something sexual harassement is constantly lowered and results in a poisoned atmosphere where any playful transgression between genders is rendered impossible. It also contradicts my personal experience, where men and women alike enjoy to initiate tal…

> where any playful transgression between genders is rendered impossible. As it damn well should be. To be clear: if you're making unwanted 'transgressions' against women in your workplace then you are in the wrong. Women are not your playthings.

>As it damn well should be.

I met my current girlfriend, I saw her on the street coming out of the metro, we exchanged eye contact and I walked over, talked, flirted and asked for the number...

We met the same night and she thanked me for coming over to talk to her. She's from France, I'm from Eastern Europe... we'd never meet otherwise and over the last year we experienced the most beautiful thing, that people call love.

In some places, like Manchester, this is now sexual harassment... I feel sorry for the world you live in...

Re: 6 Women Accuse Tech VC Justin Caldbeck of Sexual Assault and Harassment

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

So you're saying idiots can't sexually harass people. Is that your excuse?

I think he's trying to distinguish between someone with poor ability to pick up on social cues (from someone with poor ability to communicate their wishes/feelings) and a sexual predator. That seems like a reasonable distinction to make, though both can have the same moral fault and/or commit the same crime; motivation is important when we look towards someone's character.

This is not the first time I've heard somebody try to fly the lame excuse that they're not guilty of doing something they actually did, because they were too stupid to know it was illegal.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/republicans-emergin...

Re: 6 Women Accuse Tech VC Justin Caldbeck of Sexual Assault and Harassment

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Really glad to see people like this getting called out. Dealing with sexual harassment/assault from someone in power is the last thing you want as a female founder - you have a million other things you need to do to keep your startup afloat, and you don't want to rock the boat if it affects your likelihood of being funded. Feels like the valley is slowly but surely changing. And yes, I recognize that this hasn't been…

The sad part to me is that this is just the part of the iceberg that is visible above the surface. I've heard stories from several female founders/VC's (not naming names or specific details to protect anonymity) who have experienced repeated unwelcome advances even after it was made clear they had a significant other. That's not as egregious as groping (one of the accusations in this article), but that's still sexual…

I've heard about both Men and Women VCs & CEOs making sexual advances using their position of power to those lower on the totem.

It's very common.

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