Ask HN: What do you want to see in Debian 10 (“buster”)?

Post by aij » Thu, Jun 22, 2017, 2:09 PM UTC

hsivonen wrote: post #77

avar wrote: post #71

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> rename testing to something with a positive > connotation that doesn't suggest it's for > testing only. Isn't unstable what you want to use? The reason it's called "testing" is because it's a branch of Debian that's "in testing for stable". IIRC packages have to be 2 weeks in unstable without bugs before migrating to testing. So it's explicitly not a bleeding edge release, but a preparation release for the next sta…

At the very least "unstable" has a name with a negative connotation. It has the air of it being the user's fault if you use it and stuff breaks. I don't know what the practical breakage situation is, so I don't know if renaming and repositioning unstable would make more sense than doing it with testing. My point is that it would be good for non-expert end users who like Debian's community image and who want security​…

Post by kasabali » Thu, Jun 22, 2017, 6:11 PM UTC

cyberpunk5000 wrote: post #276

HEADLINE: concrete release timelines DESCRIPTION: For many years I've been fond of Debian and have used it for side hobby projects. But I've had to use Ubuntu and Fedora for real work because I need a modicum of certainty about the intervals between releases. I acknowledge that Ubuntu's rigid release-every-6-months, LTS-every-24 is impractical for a volunteer project with high standards. But without any firm timeline…

Post by kasabali » Thu, Jun 22, 2017, 7:32 PM UTC

yaantc wrote: post #78

HEADLINE: Smarter handling of icons files during updates DESCRIPTION: This is a nitpick/wishlist item really. I started using Stretch while in testing, and noticed that most updates would download rather large sets of icons (few MBs). They look like archive files of icons, and I guess that if any change happens the whole set is downloaded again. This wasn't the case in Jessie. When on a slow Internet link, it can def…

Post by kasabali » Thu, Jun 22, 2017, 7:58 PM UTC

s_kilk wrote: post #123

jancsika wrote: post #116

- HEADLINE: transactional upgrades and package installs - DESCRIPTION: This is a feature of the guix package manager. From their website: "Each invocation is actually a transaction: either the specified operation succeeds, or nothing happens. Thus, if the guix package process is terminated during the transaction, or if a power outage occurs during the transaction, then the user’s profile remains in its previous state…

Fedora/RHEL also has transactional package operations via their package-manager, `dnf`. One of the reasons I'd prefer not to go back to apt-based distros.

Post by mhall119 » Fri, Jun 23, 2017, 3:52 PM UTC

debianoffline wrote: post #239

lamby wrote: post #55

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> without an Internet connection, or with a slow and expensive connection Could you elaborate more on your particular use-case? Would be interested if there were also compromise solutions such as smarter binary diffs, etc.

The internet is often prohibitively expensive for a small minority of users. But those users often have infrequent access to a high-bandwidth connection. And of course, odds are that they won't be reading this thread! I've often been in this situation myself.