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Forcing moderators scrutinizing terrorists to use their real identities was a stupid, stupid idea that I hope facebook will change going forward. Perhaps facebook can look into getting some sort of anonymous identity for its moderators. At the same time, it seems a false equivalency to use a story about people using real identities to scrutinize terrorist to support a position that it is dangerous for anyone to post…
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Google? Maybe. Facebook? I would argue that using Facebook is a net negative and you're at an advantage if you ditch it.
For uk students Facebook is almost a requirement of the social life. Few people have other contact lists, if you aren't on Facebook you can't be contacted. Event invitation is done through Facebook - the event is rarely advertised elsewhere nor is it a deliberate topic conversation. The few people I knew who didn't use Facebook at uni ended up using it through others whether they are were willing to admit it or not.
So, are you telling me that students, people at the stage of life when they are most rebellious, and their minds are most flexible, just won't be able to find any replacement for Facebook, if they wanted to?
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For uk students Facebook is almost a requirement of the social life. Few people have other contact lists, if you aren't on Facebook you can't be contacted. Event invitation is done through Facebook - the event is rarely advertised elsewhere nor is it a deliberate topic conversation. The few people I knew who didn't use Facebook at uni ended up using it through others whether they are were willing to admit it or not.
>For uk students Facebook is almost a requirement of the social life. So, are you telling me that students , people at the stage of life when they are most rebellious, and their minds are most flexible, just won't be able to find any replacement for Facebook, if they wanted to? (◔_◔)
> any replacement for Facebook, if they wanted to
That requires organising several thousand people who don't want to to change platform.
Perform whatever gymnastics you want and break all of the rules - that task ain't getting easier.
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> not the coffeeshop down the street The US had this argument over businesses with "Whites Only" signs and similar, and it was concluded that "just don't go there" is an inadequate response once the problem is large enough.
And if Facebook's policy was "real names for LGBTQFM only", or "real names for gay black Irish jews", I would be right there on the front lines with you in my outrage. Don't mess with the protected classes. But that's not the situation we have here. The situation is, "real names for everyone, regardless of race, color, creed, nationality", yada yada yada. Regardless of how poorly they're implementing it, that's their…
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For many people, not being on Facebook is neither a choice nor an option because their social network - the ones they depend on - are all there and nowhere else (except probably WhatsApp, which is owned by Facebook and where the contact metadata is shared between the two). In my opinion, only some privileged people are able to really have this choice and act on it. The rest don't know (not privileged enough to know/u…
It's a 'privilege' to not be on Facebook? On Maslow's Hierarchy Of Needs, nowhere is there any mention of 'online services' or 'Facebook access', or even 'Internet access'. If ever there was a textbook "Sh*t HN Says" comment worthy of the moniker, yours is it. Facebook is a business, just like your local grocer, just like any number of restaurants, just like a bookstore. If any of the above aren't giving you the serv…
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I don't see why it's confusing. Bob can have whatever name they want. They don't get to threaten to rape and murder another user.
So what do you do with Bob when he re-registers as Dave?
I've had a clearly fake name on Facebook for years. A couple weeks ago I got message from one of their reps, letting me know that there was an issue about my name, and that it was currently being reviewed. I had no intention to link that account to my real name, as it was mostly political whining and interaction with a few close friends. I basically told them that I wouldn't change the name and that they should just…
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It's enforced if people choose to report you, and 'proving' your name to them can be somewhat involved It's also more likely they will hassle you over it if your name isn't white. Maybe those sorts of names tend to be fake more often, but probably not.
I'm pretty sure I was reported by someone I disagreed with in the comments of a political post. My point was that I bypassed "proving" because I refused to comply to their rule. I've seen no evidence of different treatment based on race. Would you mind citing your source?
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/technology-science/technology/f...
At least if the real name policy wasn't required they could go by an inoffensive alternate name... but I think it's also unfair to police real names like that.
An interesting footnote is that one of the examples in that article was a Facebook employee and the company still treated them like shit.
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When 99% of your friends use Facebook, it becomes very hard to avoid it [0]. If you want to advertise your new book among them, what would you do, for example? [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_effect
Through one of the many other sites those friends probably use. Facebook probably isn't the only thing on the internet you and your circle of friends have in common.
By requiring real names, Facebook is trying to combat the sort of social discord that occurs on sites like Reddit where people routinely abandon identities, or create throwaway identities to participate in specific fora. Imagine if car license plates had our name and home address on them, would we be as likely to commit road rage, pick our noses, double park, etc. Facebook sees itself as a commons first, and the prod…
> Imagine if car license plates had our name and home address on them Dunno about where you live, but in the UK the registration authority maps license plates to registered owners addresses, and you can ask them to look it up for you: https://www.gov.uk/request-information-from-dvla The UK of course still has road rage and double parking. WRT online abuse and "hate preaching", some of the most insidious stuff is done…
This. Also, if you look at the Facebook comments for a post or article anywhere online, you'll also realise how many people simply don't care if their real name is tied to their trolling/hate.
The percentage of people who only bully/attack others under anonymity is likely far lower than people expect it to be.