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Re: BasicAttentionToken Roadmap 1.0

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> BAT Gemini (fall 2017/winter 2018) > KYC (humint + machine learning), rate, and flow control for anti-fraud

Brave - first browser that not only force you to pay for browsing Internet, but also force you to do it with your identity proven. Privacy nightmare.

Re: BasicAttentionToken Roadmap 1.0

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The use of a blockchain here is going to slow them down... The business model is really interesting but if it ends up working, Google will see it, build a Google Token that doesn't rely on the blockchain, undercut them severely on costs and transfer times, and call it a day.

I don't see Google jumping into this market. Also, it's a lot easier to pay someone in cryptocurrency than in Google token -cryptocurrency is accepted as valid payment in a much more diverse set of places. The blockchain doesn't need to slow them down if they scale correctly. You'd do most of this stuff through payment channels or a lightning network. And, the lightning network can be made to be cross-chain. You woul…

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Re: BasicAttentionToken Roadmap 1.0

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> BAT Gemini (fall 2017/winter 2018) > KYC (humint + machine learning), rate, and flow control for anti-fraud Brave - first browser that not only force you to pay for browsing Internet, but also force you to do it with your identity proven. Privacy nightmare.

> there will be no way for Brave Software to correlate your browsing history with payments to your wallet.

At least they are trying to do something about establishing an ad free economy for web content. It's a hard problem but if you think that that is a privacy nightmare you haven't been paying attention to the waking world you live in.

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Who would run a browser specifically designed to track and show ads? I can't imagine it ever being enough to support the ecosystem. Edit: And how is the locally gathered "attention" monitoring not exploitable by the people who get paid for the attention? Running a bunch of VMs that "pay attention" to the ad seems like a cheap thing to rig up.

Yep, it looks like a very good reason not to use Brave. It could be anonymous monitoring as they say but I'd feel safer to use a forked version with all the tracking code removed from source.

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Let's not forget who is behind this: Brave, a company founded by Brendan Eich, who was forced to resign from his leadership position at Mozilla when it came to light that he is a bigot that does not believe that gay people should have equal human rights. Enrich bigots at your own risk. PS: I encourage you to tweet gifs of boys kissing at him; each time I do he writes me a missive in DM and re-blocks me.

Let's not encourage people to harass someone.

Re: BasicAttentionToken Roadmap 1.0

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Who would run a browser specifically designed to track and show ads? I can't imagine it ever being enough to support the ecosystem. Edit: And how is the locally gathered "attention" monitoring not exploitable by the people who get paid for the attention? Running a bunch of VMs that "pay attention" to the ad seems like a cheap thing to rig up.

There is gunna be sooooooo much fraud. It's a huge problem with traditional display ads no reason this would be different.

Re: BasicAttentionToken Roadmap 1.0

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Interoperability I think is the biggest hurdle. There's nothing particularly special about blockchains here except that it's really easy to move between currencies once you've got accounts on the right exchanges. Without cryptocurrency, you'd need some way for a user to pay all websites they visit. Ads can go on any browser and be served from any company. Ad networks don't need to interoperate. But if a user is payin…

> it's really easy to move between currencies once you've got accounts on the right exchanges. wait so the users are going to need more than one kind of token? And they're going to need to open accounts on an exchange? > Without cryptocurrency, you'd need some way for a user to pay all websites they visit. Ads can go on any browser and be served from any company. Ad networks don't need to interoperate. But if a user…

>How is this different than having all ad publishers integrating with Google Token?

Presumably you wouldn't want to be locked into a proprietary platform that can raise fees once it has an effective monopoly.

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> it's really easy to move between currencies once you've got accounts on the right exchanges. wait so the users are going to need more than one kind of token? And they're going to need to open accounts on an exchange? > Without cryptocurrency, you'd need some way for a user to pay all websites they visit. Ads can go on any browser and be served from any company. Ad networks don't need to interoperate. But if a user…

>How is this different than having all ad publishers integrating with Google Token? Presumably you wouldn't want to be locked into a proprietary platform that can raise fees once it has an effective monopoly.

How is that different than being locked into the BAT? Brave decides how much BAT will get you an ad spot right?

Re: BasicAttentionToken Roadmap 1.0

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Interoperability I think is the biggest hurdle. There's nothing particularly special about blockchains here except that it's really easy to move between currencies once you've got accounts on the right exchanges. Without cryptocurrency, you'd need some way for a user to pay all websites they visit. Ads can go on any browser and be served from any company. Ad networks don't need to interoperate. But if a user is payin…

> it's really easy to move between currencies once you've got accounts on the right exchanges. wait so the users are going to need more than one kind of token? And they're going to need to open accounts on an exchange? > Without cryptocurrency, you'd need some way for a user to pay all websites they visit. Ads can go on any browser and be served from any company. Ad networks don't need to interoperate. But if a user…

As for the opening the account on exchange - that won't be necessary soon, because of the distributed exchanges which can do this in the background via smart contracts.

Soon you will be able set up your wallet to automatically convert the incoming tokens into whatever currency you want. Including tokens pegged to USD or any other asset.

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