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3-year-olds consuming alternative milks were 1.5 cm shorter on average

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Re: 3-year-olds consuming alternative milks were 1.5 cm shorter on average

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Lumping all of soy, rice, almond, goat milk as "non-cow" is pretty unfair to goat milk. Does their study indicate all milks in "other" independently showed similar difference in height of 1.5cm? Or are they saying the average for all other was -1.5cm in which case maybe kids on almond milk were -2cm and breast milk +1cm? And goat's milk some third number? My strong hunch is it is the latter in which case the 1.5cm is…

Thank you! How did anyone think it was a valid metric to lump goat's milk in with fake milks (plant-based milk substitutes)? Did they break this down further?

Re: 3-year-olds consuming alternative milks were 1.5 cm shorter on average

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I would change the title of the article: "Human kids drinking Milk of a Cow are 1.5 cm taller than normal ones" Who knows what kind of hormones the Diary Industry puts on the Cow-Milk you are drinking. Cow=> Not your mother, not your Milk!

The title is a bit misleading. Those 3-year-olds are 1.5cm shorter than average growth percentile. It doesn't mention the effect on adolescent height on the same diet, since most adult growth spurt happens on teenager age.

Re: 3-year-olds consuming alternative milks were 1.5 cm shorter on average

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Lumping all of soy, rice, almond, goat milk as "non-cow" is pretty unfair to goat milk. Does their study indicate all milks in "other" independently showed similar difference in height of 1.5cm? Or are they saying the average for all other was -1.5cm in which case maybe kids on almond milk were -2cm and breast milk +1cm? And goat's milk some third number? My strong hunch is it is the latter in which case the 1.5cm is…

I suspect that goat milk would be a reasonable alternative but the sample size was too small to draw any conclusions.

Re: 3-year-olds consuming alternative milks were 1.5 cm shorter on average

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Lumping all of soy, rice, almond, goat milk as "non-cow" is pretty unfair to goat milk. Does their study indicate all milks in "other" independently showed similar difference in height of 1.5cm? Or are they saying the average for all other was -1.5cm in which case maybe kids on almond milk were -2cm and breast milk +1cm? And goat's milk some third number? My strong hunch is it is the latter in which case the 1.5cm is…

I suspect that goat milk would be a reasonable alternative but the sample size was too small to draw any conclusions.

Then the study should have omitted any reference to Goat milk at all. Why did they just include Diet Coke on the list and then afterward say there wasn't enough data to exclude it? Still seems like bs.

Re: 3-year-olds consuming alternative milks were 1.5 cm shorter on average

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is a farm near where I lived some times ago, in France south west, where the cows are choosing when they want to be milked (assuming it's the good word for it). The farmers owned 2 or 3 machines where the cow goes when it wants to give milk, and get out whenever it feels about it. There's a video on their website where you can see it http://www.lafermeduramier.fr The cows can go outside whenever they want and s…

You've missed out the bit where cows only produce milk for their young to drink, and so you need to keep breeding these milk cows. You get a bunch of calves. Half of those are female, and go to replace the older dairy herd, which are killed. The other half are male, and there's no use for male dairy calves, and so they're all killed while quite young. The selective breeding of dairy cattle has caused some genetic pro…

This selective breeding has gone on for thousands of years. Cows used to be much, much larger, unintuitively, which made them more difficult to manage. It's disingenuous to attribute their current make-up almost entirely to recent standards of breeding - they are a domesticated species, meaning they effectively evolved alongside humans.
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