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Post by JepZ »

Well, I am a little sad that I have to abandon my skype account, which I had for many years, now. But on the other hand, I am happy that Microsoft supports my efforts to move to XMPP. Two weeks ago I set my Skype to away and added a comment on how to reach me via XMPP.

I know in its current state XMPP isn't for everybody (outdated clients, low market share), but for friends and family, it works great for me (own ejabberd server, conversations as the dominant client, pidgin for the desktop).

RIP Skype

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Post by mnm1 »

I've never seen another chat app mix contacts from two unrelated accounts or remove contacts for no reason. When you fucked up that bad, dropping the software is a great idea. From what I have observed, these bugs are not limited to Linux either. But then again, it's not like Microsoft is known for quality software. It's shitty, buggy, insecure software I wouldn't touch with a 10 ft pole like the rest of their offerings. Good riddance. Maybe someone will step up in this field. I'm looking at Signal but their video chat still doesn't work (ok, it worked for like a second before dropping off but that doesn't count).

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Post by sofaofthedamned »

pjmlp wrote: post #102
mbesto wrote: post #96

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I use Skype for Business and not only is it very poorly coded/architected, but the design paradigms actually make communication harder.

Actually I like it better than any alternative we have use so far (NIH InHouse solutions, NetMeeting, Sametime, WebEx).

When I worked there even people at Cisco hated WebEx.our team used hangouts instead.

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Post by AdamN »

stryk wrote: post #55
pgaddict wrote: post #14

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I couldn't agree more. We've been using Skype for internal communication for a very long time. Back then it was the only option that worked on all the OSes we need (Linux, Windows, Mac), had all the features, and it just worked. But the Electron app is just damn terrible. The message layout is super inefficient - it can display maybe half the messages compared to the native client. If you click somewhere, it un-expec…

What reliable alternatives would you suggest?

I really like https://appear.in/

Web-based, supports notification, Slack integration, custom urls.

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Post by sofaofthedamned »

FussyZeus wrote: post #73
will4274 wrote: post #17

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Every router I've bought in the last decade has had UPnP, and I don't look for it. Citation needed on the "difficult to find"

I've owned eight or so over the years, 2 of them had it, one of which was the most recent one I bought explicitly for it. YMMV

For clarity the router I used was my own Linux based one, so it wasn't off the shelf. I'd have happily port forwarded it, but the android version didn't need it so why the Linux one?

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Post by pavel_lishin »

imron wrote: post #80
pavel_lishin wrote: post #41

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I want a dedicated hand-held that does video, and can lock the screen while maintaining video input and output. I have a 16 month old kid; she has grandparents who are in various stages of decline, from "knees and back hurt a little" to "fairly advanced Alzheimers", and with various levels of computer expertise at the best of times. I want to send each of them a tablet that someone configures once to be on wifi, and…

> and can lock the screen while maintaining video input and output. Although not quite what you're looking for, I wrote a program for macOS and Windows [0] that locks keyboard and mouse input, specifically so I could have my kids in front of my computer for video calls without worrying about them hitting keys and messing things up. 0: https://www.imralsoftware.com/kamlock

How do you unlock it when you're done?

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Post by FussyZeus »

sofaofthedamned wrote: post #136
FussyZeus wrote: post #73

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I've owned eight or so over the years, 2 of them had it, one of which was the most recent one I bought explicitly for it. YMMV

For clarity the router I used was my own Linux based one, so it wasn't off the shelf. I'd have happily port forwarded it, but the android version didn't need it so why the Linux one?

I've not used Skype so I can't say, but anyone who's used an XBox console online knows about the port forwarding nightmares you have to go through to make the things work correctly. UPnP was the only way to make 2 consoles work at the same time.

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Post by marmaduke »

AdamN wrote: post #135
stryk wrote: post #55

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What reliable alternatives would you suggest?

I really like https://appear.in/ Web-based, supports notification, Slack integration, custom urls.

WebRTC is its main drawback, some browsers e.g. Safari don't seem to support it completely.

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Post by eric_the_read »

btym wrote: post #111
pgaddict wrote: post #98

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That very much depends on what are your requirements. If you need all the stuff skype supported originally - chat, voice, video, screen sharing etc. then I don't have a solution I'm afraid, particularly if you need support for various operating systems. What we need for the internal communication (within the company) is a simple IM, integrated with ticketing system (a bunch of generic rooms, per-ticket rooms, linking…

>If you need all the stuff skype supported originally - chat, voice, video, screen sharing etc. then I don't have a solution I'm afraid, particularly if you need support for various operating systems. Google Hangouts.

My experience with Hangouts is that the screen resolution is incredibly low for a very long time, and it's super-laggy on big updates (switching virtual desktops, etc.). While appear.in is still somewhat laggy, and occasionally requires one or more participants to quit and re-join, its screen sharing is much better.
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