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Post by btym »

pgaddict wrote: post #98
stryk wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What reliable alternatives would you suggest?

That very much depends on what are your requirements. If you need all the stuff skype supported originally - chat, voice, video, screen sharing etc. then I don't have a solution I'm afraid, particularly if you need support for various operating systems. What we need for the internal communication (within the company) is a simple IM, integrated with ticketing system (a bunch of generic rooms, per-ticket rooms, linking…

>If you need all the stuff skype supported originally - chat, voice, video, screen sharing etc. then I don't have a solution I'm afraid, particularly if you need support for various operating systems.

Google Hangouts.

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Post by Insanity »

Since updating to the beta, I have found that the electron client does not receive messages if outlook is open at the same time.

Even after closing outlook this problem tends to remain.. Really annoying. I wish they made it OSS so we can fix hese things faster

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Post by Insanity »

Since updating to the beta, I have found that the electron client does not receive messages if outlook is open at the same time.

Even after closing outlook this problem tends to remain.. Really annoying. I wish they made it OSS so we can fix hese things faster

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Post by SN76477 »

danirod wrote: post #11

As others are saying, the new Electron-based app is so bad on so many levels. Recently it has been failing to deliver incoming messages. They don't even appear, it just causes confusion to anyone trying to have a text conversation. Plus the lack of features that versions for other platforms have. At this point it's just better to use web.skype.com on a browser tab. I find that more reliable than the Electron client.…

Leave it to Microsoft to fail this badly on something so fundamental. Microsoft need to stop innovating and focus maintaining and improve what works.

I just want to send and receive messages to my existing contacts.

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Post by mino »

fosk wrote: post #110
danirod wrote: post #11

As others are saying, the new Electron-based app is so bad on so many levels. Recently it has been failing to deliver incoming messages. They don't even appear, it just causes confusion to anyone trying to have a text conversation. Plus the lack of features that versions for other platforms have. At this point it's just better to use web.skype.com on a browser tab. I find that more reliable than the Electron client.…

> sometimes flips the order of a few messages, so that if you send two messages, the first one appears below the second one. Turns out eventual consistency doesn't work well with chat apps.

Your comment made me laugh, but this issue is very sad. How can a chat app that constantly flips messages in transit could pass any QI, for whatever low bar we set?

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Post by baldfat »

kuon wrote: post #89
baldfat wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This will sound crazy but with the Discord or Twitch App are rock solid, but they are gamer focus and also they are electron apps (I have mostly positive experience with electron apps myself, VS Code and RStudio). I do like mumble and ran my own server for years, but client wise it is not as easy.

Did you try riot.im ?

That UI. I rather just use my IRC with Weechat on Freenode

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Post by dman »

SN76477 wrote: post #114
danirod wrote: post #11

As others are saying, the new Electron-based app is so bad on so many levels. Recently it has been failing to deliver incoming messages. They don't even appear, it just causes confusion to anyone trying to have a text conversation. Plus the lack of features that versions for other platforms have. At this point it's just better to use web.skype.com on a browser tab. I find that more reliable than the Electron client.…

Leave it to Microsoft to fail this badly on something so fundamental. Microsoft need to stop innovating and focus maintaining and improve what works. I just want to send and receive messages to my existing contacts.

In big companies doing the "mundane" things like solid incremental engineering is an irrational career strategy. Most product managers / careerists want to write the whiz bang new development rather than deal with the pain that is backwards compatibility, efficiency, multi platform support.

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Post by mino »

pavel_lishin wrote: post #41
hawski wrote: post #37

I was wondering what to use for video calls with my father. He has a mobile core 2 duo machine (one of Dell's micro desktop PCs). Skype stopped working as stated in the title. I went with Facebook Messenger on Firefox, but video from his camera is very jerky. It looks like it hangs for a 1s every 1.5s. For me it's an indication of a performance problem - video is converted to a WebRTC friendly format and it's slow. I…

I want a dedicated hand-held that does video, and can lock the screen while maintaining video input and output. I have a 16 month old kid; she has grandparents who are in various stages of decline, from "knees and back hurt a little" to "fairly advanced Alzheimers", and with various levels of computer expertise at the best of times. I want to send each of them a tablet that someone configures once to be on wifi, and…

I'd also love such a thing: a plain and simple handheld thingy with two buttons "call", "answer" and that's it.

No worrying about updates, contact lists, launching apps, etc.

Maybe a tablet with Android and some add-on to avoid updates, lock screens, and crapware?

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Post by groceryheist »

pgaddict wrote: post #98
stryk wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What reliable alternatives would you suggest?

That very much depends on what are your requirements. If you need all the stuff skype supported originally - chat, voice, video, screen sharing etc. then I don't have a solution I'm afraid, particularly if you need support for various operating systems. What we need for the internal communication (within the company) is a simple IM, integrated with ticketing system (a bunch of generic rooms, per-ticket rooms, linking…

That very much depends on what are your requirements. If you need all the stuff skype supported originally - chat, voice, video, screen sharing etc. then I don't have a solution I'm afraid, particularly if you need support for various operating systems.

meet.jit.si

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Post by Dylan16807 »

fosk wrote: post #110
danirod wrote: post #11

As others are saying, the new Electron-based app is so bad on so many levels. Recently it has been failing to deliver incoming messages. They don't even appear, it just causes confusion to anyone trying to have a text conversation. Plus the lack of features that versions for other platforms have. At this point it's just better to use web.skype.com on a browser tab. I find that more reliable than the Electron client.…

> sometimes flips the order of a few messages, so that if you send two messages, the first one appears below the second one. Turns out eventual consistency doesn't work well with chat apps.

The eventual consistency part of skype doesn't really cause problems. But how it screws up simple timestamping is quite another question.
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