So what, the board of Apple only care about their money
Chinese authorities detain Apple employees suspected of selling customer data
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#22Where is it being sold? I wanna check if I or family members have been made.
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#23Oh snap. And Apple has been touting itself as the champion of privacy in comparison with Google, Facebook and Microsoft... This doesn't look good for them
It's not Apple's policy to sell information. This is employees engaging in criminal behavior. Still not good for Apple, but it's correctable (firing and pressing charges as appropriate; institute stronger internal policies on both hiring and information access). Facebook and Google can't stop selling our information without going out of business (or a major pivot).
Google doesn't sell the information either. (You can buy ads, though.)
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#24Apple does not allow your iOS iCloud data to be encrypted in a manner where Apple cannot access it. As is alluded to in this article.
Privacy advocates and privacy caring IT specialists have repeatedly asked Apple to offer such an option, but so far Apple has decided that regular people would turn such an option on, forget their password, then ask Apple for help and would be unhappy with their brand experience if Apple could not help them out.
If Apple would implement such an option where Apple could not access your data, shenanigans like the ones outlined in the article could not happen. It would also allow people who feel the state will misuse their info use iCloud for the first time.
There could be something good that comes out of this. These bad news could pressure Apple into finally offering an optional iCloud service where only you can see your data.
Answers to likely responses: "just use a different cloud service": on iOS, for cloud backups, there are no alternatives: it's iCloud or nothing.
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#25Suddenly potential workings behind celebrity nude photo exposure scandals, the most recent one just a month/weeks back, becomes more clear. Of course, brute forcing, weak passwords, or phishing, may still have happened, but this sure sounds convenient and perhaps not even expensive for hackers sharing the cost. It also sounds troubling with government staff exposure and all.
In fairness I don't think this was necessary for the celebrity leaks. With a celebrity, with much of their lives being public knowledge I can imagine it was probably easy enough to guess their security questions.
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#26Can confirm. I've had someone contact me on snapchat and show me screenshots of Apple's internal tools and offer to run queries for $$$. He was willing turn off 2FA, change the email, and reset the password (thus, giving me access) for $$$$. He told me that he texts a friend who calls and pretends to be the customer in question, and texts him all the verification questions he has to ask as part of SOP. Many AppleCare…
Did you report that?
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#27I see a lot of people defending Apple but I wonder how would they react if this was Microsoft.
Re: Chinese authorities detain Apple employees suspected of selling customer data
#28Apple does not allow your iOS iCloud data to be encrypted in a manner where Apple cannot access it. As is alluded to in this article. Privacy advocates and privacy caring IT specialists have repeatedly asked Apple to offer such an option, but so far Apple has decided that regular people would turn such an option on, forget their password, then ask Apple for help and would be unhappy with their brand experience if App…
Just use different OS then
Re: Chinese authorities detain Apple employees suspected of selling customer data
#29Apple does not allow your iOS iCloud data to be encrypted in a manner where Apple cannot access it. As is alluded to in this article. Privacy advocates and privacy caring IT specialists have repeatedly asked Apple to offer such an option, but so far Apple has decided that regular people would turn such an option on, forget their password, then ask Apple for help and would be unhappy with their brand experience if App…
Answers to likely responses: "just use a different cloud service": on iOS, for cloud backups, there are no alternatives: it's iCloud or nothing.
Moreover, in the case of Apple this could actually be productive. They have been pushing the privacy angle. Let's not forget that this is the company that pushed out end-to-end encrypted chats to tens (hundreds?) of millions of users before Whatsapp did it.
If Apple offered this option, this would be a boon to tens of millions of people, which is far more productive than a few experts moving to relatively obscure alternatives.
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#30Hoping comments can resist the urge to turn this into an apple bashing thread. Having someone purposefully steal your data from the inside doesn't mean you don't care about privacy. They likely won't reveal anything but I'm curious how they could get the info out of Apple systems. Most companies of Apple's size lock down work stations to the point of slowing down workers efficiency to keep customer data safe. Especia…
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