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What about the possibility that if someone is being a douchebag, blaming their shitty behaviour on the "bad at social skills" strawman is not an excuse any more (or ever was).
But a lot of the times it is the case. In SJW-speak, "You sound like an ableist who's trying to project your better social skills onto others".
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The way I see it: * He was geeking out. True. * There was no ill intent. True. * He wasn't sexist. False. He could geek out all he wanted, but speaking for her multiple times over her trying to get a foot in was very sexist, regardless of intent. I hold the door for guys all the time, but if you're only doing it for "feeble girls" it is telling. This was the case in this panel. She's there because she knows her shit,…
Ok, so the woman who is ostensibly the victim doesn't see it as sexism, but presumably a random man who wasn't there and didn't see the event is arguing it is. Hmm, who to believe? Why are you mansplaining sexism to a woman and denying her lived experience?
Please don't troll here. On HN, if you have a substantive point, make it thoughtfully; otherwise please don't post.
Edit: I watched the video. The moderator goes on and on and the "let her speak please" sounds very polite. This is a painfully frustrating reminder that women get talked over by men. It's one thing to have one panelist talk over another, but to have the moderator, who is explicitly in charge of facilitating a panel discussion, be the one to drown out a panelist is just unacceptable. Yes, "not all men" do this, but th…
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I can't find the study, but men interrupt women much more than they interrupt men. Also, women interrupt other women more than they interrupt men as well.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/lexicon_valley/2014/07/23/study_m... Men are 3x as likely to interrupt women. Women will interrupt women, but rarely men. Informal study, but decent sample size.
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An easy solution is to give less fucks what other people think and just try not to be a dick.
Most of the time. There's a monologue near the end of Team America: World Police that goes further into the nuances of it. Basically, don't be a dick, unless you're talking to an asshole.
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Nonsense. By your statement, the reason it disproportionately impacts women is not because of some rudimentary, fundamental reason but rather because they fail to react the same way the men did and speak up. That lies 100% on the women. In fact what YOU wrote is actually sexist, since it suggests that the corrective action would be to act differently toward her, but not the men. Perhaps you might merely argue that he…
Protip: It's not.
And the commenter said - "women often have difficulty interrupting in the way that the men here did"
At minimum, that fits at least the stereotyping requirement of the definition.
Outrage culture front and center. Time to pull out our morality antennas and virtue signal how pious we are in support.
We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14506656 and marked it off-topic.
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Sorry, but if you are OK with the term "mansplaining" then you are OK with sexist behaviour.
> Sorry, but if you are OK with the term "mansplaining" then you are OK with sexist behaviour. Having a term for a particular pattern of sexist behavior which is observed to be common is not the same as being okay with sexist behavior.
Let me show that with a simple example.
Some women are always complaining and whining. You have to find a word for this behaviour. If you choose a word (femmwhining, maybe?) that implies that all women are always complaining and whining, then you are being sexist.
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Or maybe she's just so classy that she can see taking the high ground offers stronger rebuke instead of objecting to the slight. Hubeny was not allowed to speak as uninterruptedly as the other panelists. I'm not really too thrilled at Talkington's outburst - it kind of makes the offense about her, not Hubeny, who if she wanted to could have asked Holt to shut up - but the sentiment was warranted if you watch more of…
Hubeny doesn't seem like a person who would tell someone to shut up though, and sexism or not, it's basic politeness to give shy people a bit more room. Certainly after announcing that you now finally want to hear their perspective :/ I doubt that moderator can watch that part and say "yeah, that's good moderation". Just reading the FB post, I was taken aback a little, to be perfectly honest I rolled my eyes at "why…
So if she came across less sympathetically on camera or didn't speak interestingly enough for you it would be OK to treat her with sexism?
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If you're a white heterosexual male you're probably not used to being uncomfortable because the whole world was made for you. You don't feel uncomfortable when you see the police. You don't feel uncomfortable walking down your street at night by yourself. You don't feel uncomfortable going to your church. You don't feel uncomfortable kissing your spouse in the street. In my opinion, the discomfort you're feeling is n…
Not to underplay that growing up as, say, a black American in the projects comes with a whole host of horrific challenges, but this comment is incredibly sexist + racist. >> You don't feel uncomfortable when you see the police. I become incredibly uncomfortable around police, for many good reasons >> You don't feel uncomfortable walking down your street at night by yourself This as completely untrue. I've been follow…
There's a number of very vocal anti-racist or anti-sexist that seem to ignore or downplay discrimination based on class, employability and mental health.
This can be very divisive.