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Of course I don't. Still it's sad to see that you are OK with sexist behaviour.
I'm not ok with sexist behavior, which is why I think "mansplaining" is such a useful term.
“Let her speak please”
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#102https://www.ted.com/talks/philip_zimbardo_on_the_psychology_...
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#104This thread is basically people stumbling over themselves trying to defend how this is NOT sexist or justify the varying degrees of sexism. Some of the fun examples: - men get talked over too! (doesn't mean this isn't sexist) - he's just an asshole (doesn't mean he's not a sexist asshole) - that woman is just looking for a social justice moment (how about the rest of the audience?)
I watched the video and found evidence of him treating her equally....try 27:05 for starters.
The actual incident was just a moderator being clumsy. You've taken that and thrown sexism in there because, why... you need a victim to cheer for and an industry to scorn? I don't get your motivation when there is clearly no evidence of sexism.
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#105Edit: I watched the video. The moderator goes on and on and the "let her speak please" sounds very polite. This is a painfully frustrating reminder that women get talked over by men. It's one thing to have one panelist talk over another, but to have the moderator, who is explicitly in charge of facilitating a panel discussion, be the one to drown out a panelist is just unacceptable. Yes, "not all men" do this, but th…
men get talked over as well
some people just talk over other people
nothing new
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#106As an introvert myself, I support a workplace that is encouraging and respectful of women because that is a workplace respectful of introverts as well.
[1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2016/10/25/...
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#107Earlier quoted context omitted.
Or, as it was already called, "being condescending." I don't get why EVERYTHING is shoehorned into being some gender-related thing these days.
Because that's how the younger generation of feminists was taught to look at the world. It's why most of the time I find myself gravitating to many of the older, more balanced, feminists. Mansplaining is the classic problem looking for a solution.
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#108ITT: Sexism _must_ be intentional to be true! If someone's implicit biases (or given the circumstances, like having ten or hundred men in the room versus one woman) cause them to act differently toward women than men, it's still sexism - intentional or not. I'd encourage the men in this thread to exercise a bit of empathy and imagine what it'd be like to be the only man in a room full of 100 women (eg. Miley Cyrus co…
I'm often the only man in a room of 10-40 women, eg "Mums & Toddlers" groups and at work. There's usually a degree of overt sexism and exclusion; however acting differently toward me is human nature, we have two different sexes.
Sexism that's not negative discrimination seems like something we should just live with. Some intentional (or at least easily avoided) sexism falls in that class IMO.
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#109Edit: I watched the video. The moderator goes on and on and the "let her speak please" sounds very polite. This is a painfully frustrating reminder that women get talked over by men. It's one thing to have one panelist talk over another, but to have the moderator, who is explicitly in charge of facilitating a panel discussion, be the one to drown out a panelist is just unacceptable. Yes, "not all men" do this, but th…
Journalists definitely like to hear themselves talk, even when formulating questions while moderating a discussion. But if he, as a relative layperson in science, felt that comfortable interrupting Dr. Hubeny and riffing off of her area of expertise, imagine what he's like in a topic in which he doesn't think himself a relative amateur.
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#110What's really interesting is that the author only became 'boiling' with rage when this socially-unaware moderator talked over the woman on the panel, not when he talked over the other men. This kind of behavior is extremely common in STEM, and happens to everyone. If you don't talk with confidence, purpose, and animation, you're going to get talked over by the alpha nerd of the group. Man, woman, or purple elephant.…
What's really interesting is that every time sexism comes up there are volunteers eager to show it isn't sexism.