No Touch Bar on the keyboard.
Let's hope that is a sign they will do away with it on the MacBook "Pro" as well.
Apple Teases Upcoming Space Gray iMac Pro, "the most powerful Mac ever"
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> This is Apple's answer to their negligence to the Pro market, Nah, this is the stopgap they talked about when they had their "Come to Jesus" meeting with bloggers. A real big boxy Mac Pro is supposed to come after 2017. Pre-announced, which Apple never does. See: https://daringfireball.net/2017/04/the_mac_pro_lives EDIT: They didn't actually say 2018, just "not in 2017"
Then why release anything now? Who is this for, if pros will wait for the "real" one and consumers already have one? Will the "stopgap" model be around/supported in two years?
Because they already had this in the pipe and it __was__ the replacement for the Mac Pro. But they realized that it wasn't going to cut it. So now it's the stop gap and not the new Mac Pro replacement.
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Keep dreaming bud. If you want upgradeability and self-serviceability, build it yourself.
You mean like the previous Mac Pro?
Yeah, I had a 2008 Mac Pro that was still a damn good machine when I stopped using it in 2012, because I had upgraded its RAM and its hard disk.
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Optimism would be warranted if they announced Vulkan, OpenGL 4.5 and a commitment to update their product line with new internal GPUs more frequently and at reasonable prices. Thunderbolt 3 has less than half the bandwidth of PCI Express 3.0 x16 so that's a lame solution for GPU upgradability.
GPUs don't really use the whole 3.0 x16 bandwidth, x8 is enough. It is sad that they didn't drop Metal in favor of Vulkan, yeah.
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#255Is this the VR-capable one?
On their page they advertise it as capable of VR development. I hope it delivers.
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Nothing wrong with pretty. The problem with Apple these days seems to be that they compromise extensibility for prettiness.
Absolutely - and OSX is still the king of HiDPI compatibility, along with some other niceties. That's why I think a Hackintosh is the way to go - though it's a lot of work to build your own machine. If I had the skill and time I'd start selling compact PCs with hardware that just happened to be compatible with OSX. Might be a small market, but I think it's there.
A "Certified for Hackintosh" product line could sell pretty well for developers. Or being able to run a Hackintosh as VM in Linux. You probably would need a good lawyer though.
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It sounds like the target audience for the new Mac Pro will be people who can afford to spend $10k on a quad-CPU machine. I'm sure those people will be happy. But what I want is an upgradable / self-servicable machine that costs under $3k. I hope Apple isn't about to miss the plot again .
I just built a powerful Hackintosh for about $1.5k with Sierra. Was worried about how stable it would be and took good care of researching all the parts that were verified by the community[1]. It's been going good for 3-4 months now. Took some effort to get it all setup but am very happy now. I use this for Video/Photo post-processing, web development mainly. [1] https://www.tonymacx86.com/
See also Dan Benjamin's nice, minimal, well-researched http://hackintoshmethod.com
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I think this is devilish clever by Apple. If you see a space gray iMac you know this guy shelled out a lot of money and means business. Apple made the iMac Pro an even greater status symbol than the iMac already is.
>If you see a space gray iMac [...] I'm not sure how that matters? This iMac in most cases won't be portable, so the only people who see it will be the ones using it or at least working with those who do. You sort of make it sound equivalent to the old thing about how Macbooks had lit-up Apple logos on the shell and people would know "oh this person spent thousands on their Apple laptop..." But I don't think it's the…
You can see lots of people’s (video editors, etc.) workstations when they make an Instagram story or vlog in their apartment. Besides MacBook Pros, I see iMacs the most often.
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so say for the imac pro which comes with 32GB ddr4 standard and a 1TB nvme ssd, an 8 core chip, and the higher end panel: 1k for the panel, 750 for the cpu, 200 for the ram, 650 for the ssd (samsung 960 pro?) comes to: 2600 before labor and other overhead. Solid margins there for sure, but I maintain still not a ripoff. As I have earned more in my career (I'm still not wealthy by any means, but I like nice things --…
8 core Xeons are ~$450 bucks. E5-2620v4 owner. 8c/16HT it isn't a $700 processor. A $700 Xeon is the 10c/20HT
Broadwell ones are. Apple are probably using the newer Skylake-based Xeon Gold line with higher price and much higher clock speeds.