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Apple Teases Upcoming Space Gray iMac Pro, "the most powerful Mac ever"

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Re: Apple Teases Upcoming Space Gray iMac Pro, "the most powerful Mac ever"

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If it's an 8-core Xeon, it's gotta be an E5. So the CPU alone could run $2,000 (pricing for E5 2667 v4, this probably uses an equivalent Skylake Xeon which isn't out yet).

Intel has just priced it's 18-core i9-7900X at 2K.

You do realise Xeons are a completely different range with different price points right?

Re: Apple Teases Upcoming Space Gray iMac Pro, "the most powerful Mac ever"

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I’m disappointed they chose “pretty” over a “functional” metal box like the old Mac Pros. They ran into thermal issues with the fancy design of the trash can, despite their promises of cutting edge thermal design. These iMac Pros are probably going to be soldered-CPU, soldered-RAM beasts with low repairability. It's a bit of a small victory that they support external GPUs, but I think they are missing the boat here.

This is not a Mac Pro, it's an iMac pro...

Re: Apple Teases Upcoming Space Gray iMac Pro, "the most powerful Mac ever"

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

yes - E5 2667v4 is 2k. The equivalent monitor/panel is likely 2k, that's already 4k so it seems like a decent value. http://ark.intel.com/products/92979/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E5-... Edit: the one processor version of this processor is less than a grand. So that changes the math. Apple is likely making a good amount on each mac pro sold. As they should. I want them to keep making prosumor hardware.

Who wants a 27" 5k monitor? Weird thing to try and price against, since you can get better monitors for less.

People who edit 4k video and want room for toolbars?

Re: Apple Teases Upcoming Space Gray iMac Pro, "the most powerful Mac ever"

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post #76

Gonna leave this here from the official press release as it seems quite a few people have missed this point: "In addition to the new iMac Pro, Apple is working on a completely redesigned, next-generation Mac Pro architected for pro customers who need the highest-end, high-throughput system in a modular design, as well as a new high-end pro display." https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2017/06/imac-pro-most-powerfu... Also…

>Also, I want that black keyboard! is this satire?

Every white Apple keyboard I've owned has yellowed within months.

Meanwhile, my black MacBook Air keyboard looks nearly the exact same as it did when I bought it four years ago.

Like OP, I also thought that the black keyboard was long overdue.

Re: Apple Teases Upcoming Space Gray iMac Pro, "the most powerful Mac ever"

#85
post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If it's an 8-core Xeon, it's gotta be an E5. So the CPU alone could run $2,000 (pricing for E5 2667 v4, this probably uses an equivalent Skylake Xeon which isn't out yet).

Intel has just priced it's 18-core i9-7900X at 2K.

Not sure why people are burying you, because that's 100% accurate.

8 core for $600. 10 core for $1k, 18 core for $2k. With 12, 14, and 16 core increments available in-between.

https://www.pcper.com/reviews/Processors/Intel-Core-i9-Annou...

Re: Apple Teases Upcoming Space Gray iMac Pro, "the most powerful Mac ever"

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post #56

Gonna leave this here from the official press release as it seems quite a few people have missed this point: "In addition to the new iMac Pro, Apple is working on a completely redesigned, next-generation Mac Pro architected for pro customers who need the highest-end, high-throughput system in a modular design, as well as a new high-end pro display." https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2017/06/imac-pro-most-powerfu... Also…

That is just confusing. There will be a modular Mac Pro that is totally different from this iMac Pro? That leaves me to wonder who exactly this iMac Pro is targeted at.

Art gallery receptionists. Studio executive receptionists, etc.

Re: Apple Teases Upcoming Space Gray iMac Pro, "the most powerful Mac ever"

#87
post #29

How is this not another Trashcan Mac Pro? It is a beautiful, expensive device at launch but has no capability of being upgraded, expanded or experimented with. It looks to have same thermal conundrum as the trashcan needing to dissipate the heat of the screen - all while trapped in a consumer-level shell designed specifically for exterior looks at the cost of performance. Is it not just philosophically incorrect for…

> How is this not another Trashcan Mac Pro?

In that it's not a Mac Pro at all. They have (uniquely) pre-announced a tower-style Mac Pro for "not this year"[0] back in April: https://daringfireball.net/2017/04/the_mac_pro_lives

[0] and given how precise their wording was, it's not necessarily 2018 either.

Re: Apple Teases Upcoming Space Gray iMac Pro, "the most powerful Mac ever"

#88
post #76

Gonna leave this here from the official press release as it seems quite a few people have missed this point: "In addition to the new iMac Pro, Apple is working on a completely redesigned, next-generation Mac Pro architected for pro customers who need the highest-end, high-throughput system in a modular design, as well as a new high-end pro display." https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2017/06/imac-pro-most-powerfu... Also…

>Also, I want that black keyboard! is this satire?

No, I genuinely thought it looked nice! Although I can't use the Apple keyboards for extended periods of time these days anyway as I use an MS ergonomic keyboard - can't see Apple releasing one of those...

Re: Apple Teases Upcoming Space Gray iMac Pro, "the most powerful Mac ever"

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Gonna leave this here from the official press release as it seems quite a few people have missed this point: "In addition to the new iMac Pro, Apple is working on a completely redesigned, next-generation Mac Pro architected for pro customers who need the highest-end, high-throughput system in a modular design, as well as a new high-end pro display." https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2017/06/imac-pro-most-powerfu... Also…

It sounds like the target audience for the new Mac Pro will be people who can afford to spend $10k on a quad-CPU machine.

I'm sure those people will be happy. But what I want is an upgradable / self-servicable machine that costs under $3k.

I hope Apple isn't about to miss the plot again.

Re: Apple Teases Upcoming Space Gray iMac Pro, "the most powerful Mac ever"

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post #43
post #9

This is Apple's answer to their negligence to the Pro market, and it's hugely disappointing. The iMac was already supposed to be a Pro machine. And then they "New Coke"'d it by making it too thin and susceptible to overheating. Performance suffered and now they're compensating with this machine. At $5000 the iMac Pro falls just short of a ~$2000 Hackintosh. It's still locked into the thin form factor that can't be up…

>This is Apple's answer to their negligence to the Pro market No it isn't. >The iMac was already supposed to be a Pro machine. Not it wasn't. The iMac was always decidedly the consumer desktop. The pro machine actually had "Pro" in its name.

The pro machine actually had "Pro" in its name.

All "pro" means in Apple-marketing-speak is "deluxe" these days. You can clearly see it in the MBP where they have traded off features that professional users wanted, for thinness that noone in that market cares about. Make it 5mm thicker or even 10mm for 32 or 64G RAM and everyone would have been delighted.

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