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Apple Teases Upcoming Space Gray iMac Pro, "the most powerful Mac ever"

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Re: Apple Teases Upcoming Space Gray iMac Pro, "the most powerful Mac ever"

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Why do you assume that heat ventilation will be an issue with the iMac Pro?

Let's take all the heat issues from the traschan pro, strap on a 5k display and put it into a consumer-level shell. Yeah... heat will be a problem.

The "consumer-level" shell is a 27" Aluminum heatsink.

Re: Apple Teases Upcoming Space Gray iMac Pro, "the most powerful Mac ever"

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This is Apple's answer to their negligence to the Pro market, and it's hugely disappointing. The iMac was already supposed to be a Pro machine. And then they "New Coke"'d it by making it too thin and susceptible to overheating. Performance suffered and now they're compensating with this machine. At $5000 the iMac Pro falls just short of a ~$2000 Hackintosh. It's still locked into the thin form factor that can't be up…

>This is Apple's answer to their negligence to the Pro market

No it isn't.

>The iMac was already supposed to be a Pro machine.

Not it wasn't. The iMac was always decidedly the consumer desktop. The pro machine actually had "Pro" in its name.

Re: Apple Teases Upcoming Space Gray iMac Pro, "the most powerful Mac ever"

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This is Apple's answer to their negligence to the Pro market, and it's hugely disappointing. The iMac was already supposed to be a Pro machine. And then they "New Coke"'d it by making it too thin and susceptible to overheating. Performance suffered and now they're compensating with this machine. At $5000 the iMac Pro falls just short of a ~$2000 Hackintosh. It's still locked into the thin form factor that can't be up…

If it's an 8-core Xeon, it's gotta be an E5. So the CPU alone could run $2,000 (pricing for E5 2667 v4, this probably uses an equivalent Skylake Xeon which isn't out yet).

yes - E5 2667v4 is 2k. The equivalent monitor/panel is likely 2k, that's already 4k so it seems like a decent value.

http://ark.intel.com/products/92979/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E5-...

Edit: the one processor version of this processor is less than a grand. So that changes the math. Apple is likely making a good amount on each mac pro sold. As they should. I want them to keep making prosumor hardware.

Re: Apple Teases Upcoming Space Gray iMac Pro, "the most powerful Mac ever"

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Given the support for major gaming engines, Steam VR, and changes within Metal 2, is it wrong to be optimistic for Mac gaming?

If the takeaway from this WWDC could be potential gaming parity with Windows, that's a really big deal for me. Me being the segment of Pro users who need to work on a Mac and want to game natively on one, too.

Re: Apple Teases Upcoming Space Gray iMac Pro, "the most powerful Mac ever"

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post #41
post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let's take all the heat issues from the traschan pro, strap on a 5k display and put it into a consumer-level shell. Yeah... heat will be a problem.

The "consumer-level" shell is a 27" Aluminum heatsink.

You mistyped "frying pan".

Re: Apple Teases Upcoming Space Gray iMac Pro, "the most powerful Mac ever"

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post #9

This is Apple's answer to their negligence to the Pro market, and it's hugely disappointing. The iMac was already supposed to be a Pro machine. And then they "New Coke"'d it by making it too thin and susceptible to overheating. Performance suffered and now they're compensating with this machine. At $5000 the iMac Pro falls just short of a ~$2000 Hackintosh. It's still locked into the thin form factor that can't be up…

> This is Apple's answer to their negligence to the Pro market, Nah, this is the stopgap they talked about when they had their "Come to Jesus" meeting with bloggers. A real big boxy Mac Pro is supposed to come after 2017. Pre-announced, which Apple never does. See: https://daringfireball.net/2017/04/the_mac_pro_lives EDIT: They didn't actually say 2018, just "not in 2017"

Then why release anything now? Who is this for, if pros will wait for the "real" one and consumers already have one? Will the "stopgap" model be around/supported in two years?

Re: Apple Teases Upcoming Space Gray iMac Pro, "the most powerful Mac ever"

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post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This is Apple's answer to their negligence to the Pro market, Nah, this is the stopgap they talked about when they had their "Come to Jesus" meeting with bloggers. A real big boxy Mac Pro is supposed to come after 2017. Pre-announced, which Apple never does. See: https://daringfireball.net/2017/04/the_mac_pro_lives EDIT: They didn't actually say 2018, just "not in 2017"

Are you sure there will be an actual Mac Pro later? This iMac Pro seems to be their 'Pro' desktop offering.

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