Any idea about what nCU (New Compute Unit) is? Was listed as one of the new features of the iMac Pro.
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Apple Teases Upcoming Space Gray iMac Pro, "the most powerful Mac ever"
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Re: Apple Teases Upcoming Space Gray iMac Pro, "the most powerful Mac ever"
#62This is Apple's answer to their negligence to the Pro market, and it's hugely disappointing. The iMac was already supposed to be a Pro machine. And then they "New Coke"'d it by making it too thin and susceptible to overheating. Performance suffered and now they're compensating with this machine. At $5000 the iMac Pro falls just short of a ~$2000 Hackintosh. It's still locked into the thin form factor that can't be up…
Agreed. Another computer I could never afford
Re: Apple Teases Upcoming Space Gray iMac Pro, "the most powerful Mac ever"
#63This is Apple's answer to their negligence to the Pro market, and it's hugely disappointing. The iMac was already supposed to be a Pro machine. And then they "New Coke"'d it by making it too thin and susceptible to overheating. Performance suffered and now they're compensating with this machine. At $5000 the iMac Pro falls just short of a ~$2000 Hackintosh. It's still locked into the thin form factor that can't be up…
Agreed. Another computer I could never afford
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#64Earlier quoted context omitted.
> This is Apple's answer to their negligence to the Pro market, Nah, this is the stopgap they talked about when they had their "Come to Jesus" meeting with bloggers. A real big boxy Mac Pro is supposed to come after 2017. Pre-announced, which Apple never does. See: https://daringfireball.net/2017/04/the_mac_pro_lives EDIT: They didn't actually say 2018, just "not in 2017"
Then why release anything now? Who is this for, if pros will wait for the "real" one and consumers already have one? Will the "stopgap" model be around/supported in two years?
> Who is this for, if pros will wait for the "real" one and consumers already have one?
It's for people who have a need/desire for "pro" components but also want a thin/portable form factor.
Re: Apple Teases Upcoming Space Gray iMac Pro, "the most powerful Mac ever"
#65This is Apple's answer to their negligence to the Pro market, and it's hugely disappointing. The iMac was already supposed to be a Pro machine. And then they "New Coke"'d it by making it too thin and susceptible to overheating. Performance suffered and now they're compensating with this machine. At $5000 the iMac Pro falls just short of a ~$2000 Hackintosh. It's still locked into the thin form factor that can't be up…
How about we wait until we know more about it and their future Mac Pro plans before passing judgement, hm?
Once something is announced then criticism of it is fair game.
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#66Given the support for major gaming engines, Steam VR, and changes within Metal 2, is it wrong to be optimistic for Mac gaming? If the takeaway from this WWDC could be potential gaming parity with Windows, that's a really big deal for me. Me being the segment of Pro users who need to work on a Mac and want to game natively on one, too.
This is where I am and I'm already doing VR dev and playing lots of VR stuff. If this is where Apple jumps in, then I'm super excited.
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#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
yes - E5 2667v4 is 2k. The equivalent monitor/panel is likely 2k, that's already 4k so it seems like a decent value. http://ark.intel.com/products/92979/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E5-... Edit: the one processor version of this processor is less than a grand. So that changes the math. Apple is likely making a good amount on each mac pro sold. As they should. I want them to keep making prosumor hardware.
Who wants a 27" 5k monitor? Weird thing to try and price against, since you can get better monitors for less.
obviously you don't run it at 5k. I'd run it in 1440P probably but since it's rendering at 5k and scaling down everything is terribly sharp.
Re: Apple Teases Upcoming Space Gray iMac Pro, "the most powerful Mac ever"
#68How is this not another Trashcan Mac Pro? It is a beautiful, expensive device at launch but has no capability of being upgraded, expanded or experimented with. It looks to have same thermal conundrum as the trashcan needing to dissipate the heat of the screen - all while trapped in a consumer-level shell designed specifically for exterior looks at the cost of performance. Is it not just philosophically incorrect for…
I'd say an external GPU introduces pretty significant upgrade potential.
That was the exact statement made about the Mac Pro when it was released in 2013. Look how well that went.
Re: Apple Teases Upcoming Space Gray iMac Pro, "the most powerful Mac ever"
#69This is Apple's answer to their negligence to the Pro market, and it's hugely disappointing. The iMac was already supposed to be a Pro machine. And then they "New Coke"'d it by making it too thin and susceptible to overheating. Performance suffered and now they're compensating with this machine. At $5000 the iMac Pro falls just short of a ~$2000 Hackintosh. It's still locked into the thin form factor that can't be up…
If it's an 8-core Xeon, it's gotta be an E5. So the CPU alone could run $2,000 (pricing for E5 2667 v4, this probably uses an equivalent Skylake Xeon which isn't out yet).
Intel has just priced it's 18-core i9-7900X at 2K.
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#70I'm watching this iMac announcement and .. hm, I still find it underwhelming. The top-spec'd iMac will be less powerful (when it comes to CPU) in Jan/2018 than my current desktop I bought in mid-2015. We'll see the actual pricing though. I don't think that forcing high-perf components into a small desktop chassis makes a lot of sense, but it might me only me.
For starting at 5k the pricing requires a bank loan for most people when you could pick up a refurbished desktop for $300-400
Which is why it isn't aimed at "most people."